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Subject: Re: FALSE WITNESS 1-WITT
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:09:06 -0500
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:58:35 -0800, vince garcia
<vggarciaxx@ix.netcom.com> spake thusly:
Dude, you really should format this properly,
so that it's easier to read and will catch the
eyes of more people! You'd be surprised
at how many messages I pass by, because
they look like crap, all jumbled up!
People just can't seem to line things up and snip
out leftover, jumbled text at the bottom and they
leave eight miles of text at the top, leading up to
the one little sentence that they want to respond to.
Maybe I'll do it for you, if you'll use it. I was going
to do it for you the other day, but it's pretty long. :)
>1_WITT is a demonized heretic under the delusion that he is a one of the
>two witnesses in Revelation. Yet he has denied every possible essential
>of the Christian faith--EVERY one--starting with denying the Virgin
>birth of Christ:
>
>> >a. virgin birth
>
>> A catholic lie. This story was concocted by Satan and given to the
>> catholics. If Jesus had no carnal father, he was a bastard. The seed
>> had to come from the linage of David. The male carries the seed and
>> the female carries the egg. The egg is not seed. In a marriage the
>> female takes the family name of the man. This was written by someone
>> that didn't know anything about spirtual re-birth. Jesus had a carnal
>> father, Joseph, and then with spiritual birth, God became his Father.
>> For anyone to impregnate Mary, other than Joseph, would be adultry.
>> Mat 1:18. When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, Espoused
>> is the same as being married.
>
>Has denied the pre-existence of Christ, labeling the CLEAR BIBLE
>TEACHING "heathen":
>
>1_WITT wrote:
>> Jesus did not preexist. Pre-existence of Jesus is not a biblical
>> doctrine. It is a heathen catholic doctrine and it's false.
>
>
>
>Has denied the authority and ministry of the apostle paul:
>
>1_WITT wrote:
>> As for Paul. A person must be born of the spirit to be an apostle. Paul
>>was an apostle by his own delusion. Paul by his own words was aborted,
>> miscarried. 1 Cor 15:8. Meaning, unfit for service.
>>Paul was an apostle, only by his own words.
>
>He has also declared him "ignorant" for his teaching that Christians
>are not bound to keep the Law:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>You made this statement in another post that you are not bound by the
>> law. This would be you following Pauls ignorance.
>
>Has declared those who can't see Paul's "errors" stupid and without
>underdstanding:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> You can't see the error in what Paul wrote. Because you are to stupid
>> to understand.
>
>Has declared paul's teachings on the Law "Wrong":
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the
>> transgression of the law. AGAIN PAUL WAS WRONG. Gal 3:19 Wherefore
>> then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions.
>
>Has declared people who listen to Paul "Gullible":
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>Paul only spoke to those that were gullible enough to believe him.
>
>Has called Paul "scatter-brained," "ignorant," and denounced his
>teachings on justitification:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>So Paul said that righteousness was imputed for belief. Then he said
>>that faith which is belief, was imputed for righteousness. Gen 26:5.
>> showed the whole premise of his statements are false. Paul was truly
>> scatter brained. The problem is. Others see this and want to blame God
>> for Paul's ignorance.
>
>Has called Paul "a liar," denies he got his information from God, and
>declares those who believe his teachings to be liars:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> he did not get his information from God. He is a liar and he is making
>> you a liar.
>> This is why Paul said three times I LIE NOT. The people he wrote to
>> didn't believe him either.
>
>Gone on a tirade on how Paul's writings have sent him to hell, and
>reiterates what a "liar" he is
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> Gee the verses are all together that will send Paul into hell. Many
>> people say they can see. But they can't see what is right in front of
>> them. You also keep trying to defend Paul with Paul. There is also no
>> back up except Paul. No one else believed Paul. This is why Paul kept
>> saying "I LIE NOT" He admitted to being a liar in. Rom.3:7. Here is the
>> Problem. People of today have followed Paul and refuse to expose
>> his heathen doctrine. They just make excuses for him because if they
>> admit that Paul is a deceiver, they would have to admit, that they were
>> deceived by him. Then the money would cease to flow.
>
>Called Paul aborted and two-faced
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> Paul was under the law because he was not born of the spirit. Aborted
>> because he was unfit for service. Mainly he was two faced about his
>> teaching. And he was a knownliar. Pauls doctrine of the end justifies
>> the means, is a false teaching.
>
>Misuses Paul's own writings to claim Paul prophesised himself to be a
>liar:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> 2 Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that
>> they should believe a lie: The exposed lie is. Paul is a liar. Simple
>
>Has said Paul is in hell with a lot of heathens
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> You will have a lot of time to viset Paul in hell. Maybe I'll have him
>> save you a seat. There will be a lot of heathen men going that way.
>
>Has said that those who follow's Paul's teachings on the law and
>justification...
>
>>won't even make it into the kingdom. Neither will his followers.
>
>Has overruled Jesus and the Scriptures, and declared the Holy Spirit is
>not a HE, but rather a SHE:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>The Holy Spirit is a separate entity, from God and Jesus. She is the
>> mother to all those that are born again.
>> The Holy Spirit was always a she, until the heathen catholics changed
>> her gender.
>
>Denies the Holy Spirit indwells believers:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>There is no indwelling spirit except for one's own spirit. I have told
>> you this before, so it must have gone right over your head. This dogma
>> was made up by a person that did not know God.
>
>Proclaimed that only if you learn from HIM can you understand the Holy
>Spirit and what "SHE" is:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>>You don't have a clue as to the office and purpose of the Holy Spirit,
>> unless you got that information from me.
>
>Has denied the pre-existence and deity of Christ:
>
>>1_WITT wrote:
>> Jesus was not called the word until Origin about 250 c.e. In 350 c.e.
>> Constantine, the heathen leader of the catholic church, declared
>>Jesus as pre-existing. There was no proof either way. Anyone refusing
>>this doctrine of, pre-existence would be excommunicated. So they
>>added verses or altered them to say that Jesus pre-existed. 1
>> John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, > the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Most people
>> know this verse to be a forgery. Like I said, Jesus was not called the
>> word until at least 250 c.e. So who is responsible for altering the
>>bible.
>
>FYI, people--this is untrue. SECOND CENTURY gospel manuscripts read "In
>the beginning was the word" EXACTLY as later ones, and our bible do.
>
>JUSTIN MARTYR in the 2nd century ALSO knew Jesus was called "the word":
>
>"He appears arrayed in such forms as the Father pleases; and they call
>Him the Word, because He carries tidings from the Father to men: but
>maintain that this power is indivisible and inseparable from the Father,
>just as they say that the light of the sun on earth is indivisible and
>inseparable from the sun in the heavens"
>
>And the verse he--in his textual ignorance--has claimed is a "forgery"
>was cited as early as the 3rd century
>
>As John says, THIS is how REAL Christians are to treat a spiritual whore
>like him:
>2 Jn: 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of
>Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath
>both the Father and the Son.
>10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him
>not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
>
>And this is what PAUL--the apostle she rejects as "wrong", "unfit," and
>under "delusion," said to do with a whore like him who preaches the
>Jewish law and sabbath:
>
>gal 4: Nevertheless what saith the scripture? CAST OUT the bondwoman and
>her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of
>the freewoman.
>
>I ask: is 1_Witt is a prophet of God? Or Satan?
--
Pastor Dave
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The Last Days were in the first century:
James 5:8-9
8) Be YE also patient; establish YOUR hearts:
for the coming of the Lord DRAWETH NIGH.
9) Grudge not one against another, brethren,
lest YE be condemned: behold, the judge
STANDETH BEFORE THE DOOR.
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