>> >> >Niels wrote:
>> >> > Eeeerrrmm... I just don't get it... what's this all about?
>> >> >Ivo:
>> >> >There's not much to get.
>> >> >As you might have guessed, 'Big Black pimp daddy' is a troll
>> >> >and Gloria is doing a mighty fine job planting her foot up his ass.
>> >> Biographer:
>> >> Gloria, aka Our Lady of Pikachu,
>> >> aka Sheena, Queen of the Jungle, et cetera,
>> >> author of "Recipes for Fried Troll - To Infinity And Beyond",
>> >> four-time winner of the Golden Foot Award,
>> >> who along with others, pioneered using trolls as comic-relief
>> >> (and furry slippers).
>> >Niels:
>> >Talking about nick-names....
>> Klaatu:
>> <enter Saint Nicholas stage-left, bustling with bag of toys>:
>> <sets down bag, whips out pen and note-pad>:
>>
>> That's what you want for Christmas? - easy - we've got lots;
>> Hi, I'm Nick....
>Niels:
>I thought it was santa coming with chirstmas? But anyway... first got to
>find something for my birthday over 8 days... then I'll look for the old man
Doctor:
Your birthday is eight days long?
wow.
>> >> >Ivo:
>> >> >Gloria, ejb and me live here, along with some others.
>> >> >Alt.teens used to be a bright light in the dark corners of Usenet,
>> >> >but recently traffic has diminshed to a near standstill.
>> >> >
>> >> >Perhaps we are getting too old,
>> >> >perhaps we've told each other all there is too tell
>> >> >or perhaps we're all just busy
>> >> >considering the new college/university year started in september.
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> noticed regs' responses tapered off in length and scope;
>> >> thought maybe they don't care to repeat themselves,
>> >> having become familiar and comfortable with other regs
>> >> and wishing to spare them boredom.
>> >>
>> >> still - most of life is a series of concurrent cycles;
>> >> if one's to avoid doing stuff just because it's been done before,
>> >> why eat?... you'll only get hungry again, anyway,
>> >> and almost anything you taste, you've tasted many times.
>> >Niels:
>> >Euuhmm... yeah.. I think you're right...
>> >> Klaatu:
>> >> i use this place as a school. learnt lots here.
>> >> may be useful to hear some of the old stuff again though;
>> >> cycles recur, but nothing in nature repeats Exactly.
>> >> new insights change one's perspective daily.
>> >Niels:
>> >It's just where you get your information from....
>> k:
>> fer shure.
>> read a history of Germany which startled me:
>>
>> 'After the abortive Beer-Hall Putsch, the Party was disbanded,
>> and Adolf Hitler and his cronies were never heard of again....'
>>
>> boggled, then checked printing-history at front of book:
>> "published 1931... "
>Niels:
>haha.... yeah.... but there the trouble just started...
>> >> Klaatu:
>> >> looking back through archives,
>> >> wonder how threads started in 1997 would play out now -
>> >> with the same topics and same folks participating.
>> >>
>> >> might go someplace entirely new,
>> >> or get a feel for views change over time.
>> >Niels
>> >I wasn't there in 1997....
>> >I wonder if I even ever surved the internet in that year...
>> klaatu:
>> no biggie - you're here now, and that's plenty good enough.
>Niels:
>Thanks :)
klaatu:
<tips hat>
>> >> >Ivo:
>> >> >Personally, I only respond and hardly ever start my own topics,
>> >> >but I'm still faithfully reading this group almost daily.
>> >> >
>> >> >adios,
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> maybe that's a(nother) big reason for the slow-down:
>> >> you and ejb hardly ever start threads; neither do i;
>> >> Gloria starts a few, but still mostly responds.
>> >>
>> >> might be useful to bounce some random topics around.
>> >Niels:
>> >You're right.... I think the hardest thing to do
>> >is find a topic everyone is interested in
>> >and wich is not already talked about.
>> klaatu:
>> ja, that's fair hard;
>> some old Roman dude about 150 B.C. said:
>> "Everything one can say has been said before".
>Niels:
>Yes.. but it's just the question
>f someone in the newsgroup already heard it...
Musician:
Good point, but i wonder if it matters so much -
after all, people have favourite songs they like to hear
long after they know 'em so well they can sing along ...
makes more interesting questions:
why do some people get bored quicker than others?
>> >Niels:
>> >But I think that if you make up a topic from the news
>> >or something wich is quite new
>> >you will cover up both problems at the same time.
>> klaatu:
>> agreed.
>> there's a web-site for Star-Trekkers
>> which features lots of odd new stuff;
>> seems unlikely that the Roman guy ever heard lyrics of
>> "Itsy-Bitsy Teeny-Weenie Yellow Polka-dot Bikini" in Klingon....
>Niels:
>Yeah... that's true... So there must be something to talk about.. right?
>And.. Talking about what to talk about is also something to talk about!
klaatu:
ha - well said !
<raises a toast>
>> >Niels:
>> >But what has happened lately where you could talk about?
>> >I hope we find something!
>> klaatu:
>> there's any number of things, actually ...
>> biggest problem i have is curiosity -
>> get interested in almost anything
>> so can barely stumble across a room
>> without falling over a bunch of stuff that looks SO neat
>> that i've just got to dig into it,
>> and end ricocheting about like a ping-pong ball.
>>
>> i've got no problem finding interesting stuff -
>> interesting to ME, anyway -
>> problem is guessing whether anyone else would want to hear 'bout it.
>Niels:
>The problem with your curiosity is that you never GOT it,
>it's just that jou never got rid of it.
>Do you remember small children always asking: Why? and How?
>well beleave me...
>I think that's exactly what you never stopped to do,
<ponders>
yeah ... that's about right ...
months ago at a neighbor's place
a bunch of us were splashing each other;
told a 3-year-old not to splash any grown-ups -
at which point he emptied a cup on my head.
said " i TOLD you not to splash grown-ups";
he boggled and said " But I DIDN'T.... "
everybody laughed, and his dad said
"He's got you there - you're just alike,
always running around and jumping on things,
and questions-questions-questions -
oughtta lock you all up together
and let you wear each other out."
so okay, you're right - i never *did* stop asking questions,
but i don't see any REASON to quit.
>Niels:
>bot it's not a bad habit!....
klaatu:
hope not - bad or good, i'm stuck with it.
of course, this only generates more questions, such as:
how is it so many folks quit wondering about stuff?
:-}
>Niels:
>it's like scientists (<-- I looked that one up..
>so it'll better BE right...)...
klaatu:
it is - cheers!
>Niels:
>they also never got rid of it....
>so you would make a good one as well...
klaatu:
be nice to have a job like that -
get paid for doing what i like to do best anyway.
>klaatu:
>and next to that...
>it's very handy to hear a lot of background information
>without having to look it up...
klaatu:
ja, for real;
i like it especially when someone posts interesting stuff
and the sources right along with it.
of course, i look it up anyway to make sure it's right,
but it saves ten times the effort even then.
>Niels:
>your problem is mine as wel....
>but I think that somehow it is IMPOSSIBLE
>to find a topic EVERYONE is interested in...
>but let's just find a topic a few (or most)
>people are interested in...
>(like for you and me guitar or programming).
klaatu:
Jay Shaw and Garp both play guitar too -
and Garp's a computer-tech.
everybody cycles through at such odd inervals, tho....
>Niels:
>It sounds a bit rude to the others here,
>but then at least the newsgroup LOOKS more crowded than it is now,
>and it's not forbidden
>for other people to interfere with (not) interesting replies.
>As long as we keep the language understandable for everyone.
klaatu:
no problem, i think:
Ivo among others is into hard-science,
and if he/they wanted, could bury readers in jargon,
but such folk seem to have no trouble with making clear points
anyone can understand.
besides, i'm used to people talking over my head -
i just note stuff i don't understand and go find it.
>Niels:
>The fact that you're not knowing
>whether anyone else would like to hear about it
>has only one way to solve it: Try it out.
klaatu:
YESSS, exactly !
>Niels:
>At first there might always be somebody
>who is interested in the same topic
>and second the newsgroup is getting so boring
>that I'm in the ability to listen to everything
>as long as we've got something to talk about.
klaatu:
not sure if i've actually ever been bored;
the description doesn't match anything i know,
but if something isn't immediately interesting,
i dig around in it til something interesting shows up.
>Niels:
>Owh.. something else... I'm having a bit trouble writing in English..
>so if ever anyone of you find a spelling mistake in my messages
>(don't go checking them for me,
>but just if you happen to run into one) don't hestiate to tell me,
>becoase that's the best way to improve my English.
klaatu:
understood.
i'm no good critic because i don't have much schooling,
so learn mostly by reading good writers.
i figure if the point of writing is to transfer ideas mind-to-mind
who gets the point across clearest is the best writer,
and all else (spelling, grammar et cetera) are mere matters of style.
historically, standardized-spelling is very recent;
up to the 1830s
one often finds the same word spelt two different ways
on the same page, with no apologies to anybody.
besides, some mistakes aren't "real" mistakes -
(as in the paragraph above: it's "hesitate", not "hestiate",
but it looks more like you were just typing a little fast
than actual error).
if you like, i'll call your attention to errors if you make 'em,
but you really need somebody better educated for the job;
fortunately, that's almost everybody in this NG.
>Niels:
>Well... I hope I'll be seeing you around...
k:
ditto :-)
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