Just FYI:
There's a new(ish) Usenet archiving website in town which currently *DOES
NOT* honor X-No-Archive headers.
Am I sure? Try this on for size: http://tinyurl.com/2f3m3 (leads to
Google search results)
Until they have changed this, I would suggest that everyone refrain from
posting anything that is private enough to warrant an X-No-Archive
header.
***
From the Talk About Network FAQ,
<http://www.talkaboutnetwork.com/faq.html>:
> Can I remove a message after I post it?
>
> Talk About Network will not remove posts by request unless they are
> deemed offensive, abusive or advertisements. The Talk About Network
> reserves the right to delete messages at will for any reason, anytime
> at its sole discretion.
>
> Can I prevent my message from becoming a permanent part of Talk About
> Network?s Groups?
>
> No.
***
My e-mail correspondence with the Talk About Network (thus far):
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Beecher
> To: info@[SPAM BLOCK]
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:35 AM
> Subject: Usenet & Privacy
>
> Why do you refuse to honor the "X-No-Archive: Yes"
> header?
>
> This is neither an accusation to make a point nor
> a rhetorical question. I want an answer.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Eric
--- Talk About Network Manager <info@[SPAM BLOCK]> wrote:
> Eric,
> We are working on X-no archive. I assure you that
> not only will past x no archives be deleted but
> future ones as well. It is a filtering issue. I
> apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you.
***
I will believe that when I see it. It is, as the person says, a filtering
issue, but it is NOT a difficult one, and thus should not take much
"working on" to prevent new X-No-Archive posts from showing up. (I don't
know how long it would take to delete the ones that are already there, as
there are a lot of them.)
Furthermore, it struck me that their stated refusal to remove posts may
be illegal, as a post's copyright belongs to its author. I did some more
digging and found this in their ToS,
<http://www.talkaboutnetwork.com/termsofuse.html>:
> Deleting. You may request removal of a message that you have posted
> yourself. In contrast, you agree to resolve directly and exclusively
> with third parties any disputes you may have about messages that they
> posted. In this regard, you understand that The Talk About Network
> does not monitor or control the content of information posted by
> others, and instead simply provides a service by allowing users to
> access information that has been made publicly available.
I have not yet tested their willingness to follow up on post deletion
requests. Those of you who currently have posts with ignored X-No-Archive
headers archived there may wish to do so immediately. (Easiest way to
find out: follow the tinyurl link to Google at top of this post, add your
posting e-mail address -- everthing before the @ -- to the existing
search terms and search again.)
Please note that the Talk About Network consists of ~50 individual sites.
As my posts only appear on <http://www.talkaboutparenting.com/> (via
alt.teens), that is the only one I am interested in. If you post to other
newsgroups and wonder if your messages from those groups are also being
archived by the Talk About people, you'll have to check into it yourself
(I don't know what other groups they archive and I don't have time to
find out.)
This has been a public service announcement. Please resume normal
newsgroup activites now.
-ejb
--
Eric Beecher <smapscreeen@yahoo.com>
(Human netizens: remove extra "e" to e-mail.
SPAM-bots: Go to hell.)
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