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>> Phil Losopher:
>> as a professional philosopher
>> i must consider implications ...
>>
>> if i'm a pessimist, my worst fears are realized,
>> if i'm an optimist,everything's cool,
>>
>> <flips coin>
>Niels:
>Life's about making choices...
Penny Coyne:
Tell me 'bout it ....
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >Have you ever seen a giraffe with a coat or something on?
>> >> G. Raffe:
>> >> 'Course not - almost all animals are nudists -
>> >> hadn't you noticed?
>> >Niels:
>> >So the education effects of a Giraffe aren't working...
>> G. Raffe:
>> no, we're educated as hell; we just like going naked -
>> after all, WE have these neat fur coats ....
>>
>> Ima Frogg:
>> it's not just pelt-envy that makes humans that way;
>>
>> we amphibians don't have fur either,
>> but we don't get freaky about showing skin ...
>> humans are just weird, that's all.
>Niels:
>I'm glad you told me.. I was almost thinking you freaked out.
I. Frogg:
naah - too early; i plan to freak out later this week.
>Niels:
>You're as thick as two short planks.
Ed Itor:
Oh, goody !
The rest of the family's just like me;
next re-union, we'll jump in a pile, join hands
and become a new form of architecture - a living house.
>Niels:
>B.T.W.: The schoolpaper is running fine,
>we think of handing it out next tuesday.
Ed itor:
gonna post it here?
could use translation-practice.
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> glad to hear it.
>> >> life musta been so much simpler when blacksmithing was high-tech.
>> >Niels:
>> >Yes, but then we would never have met on the internet, wouldn't we?
>> B. Smith:
>> Blacksmithing WAS high-tech once,
>> but here you are ....
>Niels:
>You're right.. but friends at big dictances makes me feel bad
>(looks at Krystle)
B. Smith:
understood. that part's a drag.
<sigh>
>> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >... My set of boxes are much better
>> >> >> >> >than the one in the computer.
>> >> >> >> >The one in the computer is usually only used
>> >> >> >> >when making sounds in MS-DOS programmes,
>> >> >> >> >the boxes you plug in,
>> >> >> >> >are used with (mostly) Windows programmes.
>> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> that makes sense; it's about all they're good for.
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >I even sometimes use the ones that are inside the computer,
>> >> >> >for DOS programmes mostly.
>> >> >> Techie:
>> >> >> I use mine for paperweights.
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >Wauw! How did you do that then?
>> >> Techie:
>> >> Well, there are two basic ways -
>> >> you can take 'em out of the computer and drop 'em on paper,
>> >> or roll the paper up and stick it in the computer.
>> >Niels:
>> >I'll try the 2nd one...
>> >it should end up in burnt paper and a lot of fireworks...
>> >that's why I'm going to like it...
>> >but I'll try it when I've sent this message.
>> Techie:
>> good thinking -
>> better that than to try to send the message
>> AFTER you burn up the computer.
>Niels:
>That's exacly what I was thinking of.
Techie:
ja, communicating by smoke-signals is chancy at best.
>> >> >> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> >> >> that's what i need - a computer-techie uncle.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> <checks computer-manual>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Nope - they didn't include one with the machine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> dang.
>> >> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >> >No, they usually aren't included with the machine,
>> >> >> >> >> >it's just the advantage of having a big (or smart) family.
>> >> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> >> oh well - suppose i'm gonna hafta grow my own....
>> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >Yes, Or marry a beautiful lady who has one.
>> >> >> >> Brigham Young:
>> >> >> >> or do like I did: marry 27 women
>> >> >> >> and try to populate an entire State.
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >That could be a possibility..
>> >> >> >but then you're more busy f*cking up than making a family.
>> >> >> Brigham Young:
>> >> >> Hey, I needed the exercise,
>> >> >> and besides I'm in training;
>> >> >> we're trying to get our Sport recognized as an Olympic event.
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >I don't think that would do very well.... :-S
>> >> Brigham Young:
>> >> It IS difficult - that's why one needs so much practice.
>> >> <grin>
>> >Niels:
>> >Yes, but it would end up in a far to much crouded world...
>> Social Anthropologist:
>> yep - and the closer you pack 'em the more kids they have.
>>
>> the way things are going,
>> someday you'll have to shovel babies out of the way
>> each morning to get to school, or work.
>Niels:
>I hope it won't get that far... :-S
Anthro:
me too, but I wouldn't take any bets on how it'll turn out.
fact is, there's only so much planet to go round,
and so far as i can see
every ethnos on it thinks theirs is the only one which really matters.
if people decide national issues by majority-vote,
taking over is very simple - just out-breed competition.
one can prevent it, of course,
but any such plan involves nationalism, racism, genocide ....
unless Nature or some Supreme Being gets in on the project
i don't see how humanity's can avoid big trouble very soon.
>> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> > ... I'm having far too less fun than I want to. :'(
>> >> >> >> <theme-music from "Mission Impossible fills the air>
>> >> >> >> <camera pans in on mini-tape-recorder>
>> >> >> >> <voice of Peter Graves intones>:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Then your mission (should you decide to accept it)
>> >> >> >> is to live your life in such a manner
>> >> >> >> that if you suddenly find out you're gonna die tonight
>> >> >> >> you can face it without regret
>> >> >> >> that you left something un-done which COULD have been done."
>> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> i got hit by a car which knocked me across an intersection.
>> >> >> >> hit hard on my back.
>> >> >> >> sat up just in time to see the bumper of a car
>> >> >> >> (maybe the same one which hit me the first time)
>> >> >> >> as it screeched into me, brakes locked.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ran over my right shin,hit me in the face
>> >> >> >> and stopped an inch from my nuts,
>> >> >> >> bouncing me off pavement like a rubber ball.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> decided right then i'd never again pass up an opportunity,
>> >> >> >> or let anybody tell me about being too young or too small
>> >> >> >> or too anything else.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> since then i do what i want to do,
>> >> >> >> limited only by whether it's physically possible to accomplish,
>> >> >> >> just in case it's the last chance.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> VERY happy with result.
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >And you acctualy survived that?
>> >> >> klaatu
>> >> >> <whips out stethoscope, puts it to chest, listens intently>:
>> >> >> ja, i think so ...
>> >> >> either that's a heart-beat or there's a wood-pecker nearby...
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >I think it's the wood-pecker.
>> >> Woody Woodpecker:
>> >> Yup.
>> >>
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> oops . . .
>> >> could some-body call the coroner? -
>> >> or a film-agent ...
>> >> maybe i can play a role in "Night Of The Living Dead".
>> >Niels:
>> >Whaaaaa! the first living dead!
>> klaatu:
>> dunno if i'd be first;
>> had a 2nd-grade teacher who looked like a zombie.
>Niels:
>You only had one...
>it looks like all the zombies are gathered in my school...
klaatu:
your school must be a good place to party -
makes it easy to drop by for a cold one ....
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >mean.. how many lives do you have? a million?
>> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> don't know,
>> >> >> but used up so many doing stupid stuff
>> >> >> i reckon it's about time to start using some sense.
>> >> >> almost drowned once as well.
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >Get a grip on yourself! Do you really think you have a endless life?
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> who knows?
>> >> it hasn't ended YET, so i've. no personal experience to go by,
>> >> and i've no reliable testimony from dead folk, so ....
>> >Niels:
>> >You are right... but that doesn't make you won't have to wach out.
>> klaatu:
>> i hear you.
>> when i realized how lucky i've been,
>> decided to think a bit more before i do stuff;
>> can't possibly stay that fortunate forever.
>>
>> on the other side, most of the risks i took were for freedom,
>> to keep other people from trying to run my life.
>>
>> makes no sense to me to back off on that,
>> because if you do, you've got no life of your own left anyway,
>> so risking it means nothing.
>>
>> now i don't take risks just to show myself i can handle pressure.
>> like one day a bunch of us were walking rail-road rails,
>> and somebody said one could never learn anything useful
>> unless stress of actual danger was involved.
>>
>> so, we went to Marina City (Chicago)
>> and walked the hand-rail on the observation-deck
>> (two of us - the rest had better sense); it's 40-odd floors up.
>> i don't do that kind of stuff any more.
>>
>> still test myself, but do it safer ways.
>> besides, no matter how good you are chance can get you -
>> a gust of wind, or a slippery patch.
>>
>> it's true one can't know for sure if one can handle stress of risk
>> unless that risk is real,
>> but one can develop skills practicing on safe stuff
>> so one's less likely to freak out when it's for real.
>Niels:
>Aha... I get it... I think.
klaatu:
basically, i think i've used up all my dumb-luck,
and need to start being careful.
on old soldier told me:
" I've heard lots of guys say they don't bother to be careful
because if a bullet's got your name on it,
it'll get you, even if you're standing in a mine-shaft -
and I believe that . . . BUT
there's always a lotta bullets flying around
addressed "To Whom It May Concern" . . .
>> >> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> >> i've got a neighbor
>> >> >> >> >>likes to play Real War for hours and hours.
>> >> >> >> >> He's just turned six, and getting pretty good;
>> >> >> >> >> wonder what he'll be like later?
>> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >Like a far to small-minded computer nerd.
>> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> i dunno - he's not just into computers and he's tireless playing.
>> >> >> >> was with him and his 4-yo sister
>> >> >> >> climbing around one of those play-sets at McDonald's
>> >> >> >> which are made of bright plastic tubing
>> >> >> >> and look like a giant Habitrail for hamsters.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> seven hours, twenty-five minutes by the watch,
>> >> >> >> continuous motion
>> >> >> >> without holding still more than 30 seconds during that time.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> somehow i think neither one are gonna become
>> >> >> >> average couch-potato/computer nerds.
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >Just keep them sporting around...
>> >> >> >the average youth still is far to fat!
>> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> if it isn't one thing, it's another -
>> >> >> people are always telling me i should
>> >> >> "get some meat on those bones"
>> >> >> even tho i'm MUCH heavier than before;
>> >> >> now almost 60 kg at 168 cm tall.
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >I'm like 67Kg and 180 tall, so it could be worse.
>> >> >But every kilo that comes on too much,
>> >> >has to go agian, so watch out with it!
>> >> klaatu:
>> >> that's not very heavy for your height,
>> >> doesn't sound like you've got much to worry about.
>> >Niels:
>> >No, but if I stop sporting, I'll start getting heavyer and heavyer.
>> klaatu:
>> ja, but you can adjust;
>> if you burn more than you eat, you lose weight,
>> and if you eat more than you burn, you gain,
>> so if you quit sports,
>> you could just eat less to stay the same.
>>
>> i've got the opposite problem;
>> get interested in stuff and don't stop to eat;
>> doing Biblical translation got down to 49 kg,
>> noticed when i got really weak.
>Niels:
>But it's like a kind of drugs... I just can't stay away from food...
>but I can't stay away from sports as well.. so it doesn't matter.
klaatu:
yes, everything works as long as sport and food match up;
if you like pizza and eat like a forest-fire,
and your sport is chess or something,
there may be a problem.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >See ya
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> toodles,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> k
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Greetings,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Salutations,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> k
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><waves>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> klaatu:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <launches fireworks>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ooohh! aaahhh! Beautifull!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Master of Ceremonies gets jealous>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And NOW, ladies and gentlemen ....
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> for ONE night only ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on stage ....
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the HYdrogen-Bomb !
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><crowd goes wild>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ><female teenagers start screaming>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <all life on Terra goes incandescent,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> then curls sinuously up into orange sky as smoke>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <Prokaryotes gather to discuss>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well guys, back to the drawing-board ....
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >> >> >> ><Cinema movie watchers go wild as movie ends> ;-)
>> >> >> >> >> >> <fade to black>
>> >> >> >> >> >> <Supreme Being/Master of Ceremonies speaks>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you for attending our featured Universe ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> and now for a cartoon ....
>> >> >> >> >> >.....We will start....
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> ><lookes puzzled> Tom & Jerry!
>> >> >> >> >> <crowd goes wild>
>> >> >> >> ><Supreme Being/Master of Ceremonies lookes puzzled>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I don't like Tom & Jerry at all!
>> >> >> >> Tom & Jerry:
>> >> >> >> yah?
>> >> >> >> Well, okay for YOU, then -
>> >> >> >> we're gonna go start our OWN universe,
>> >> >> >> so THERE - nyaah ! ....
>> >> >> >Niels:
>> >> >> >Your own universe... could I desingn that all by myself?
>> >> >> Shop-Assistant:
>> >> >> of course - we've got starter-kits at reasonable prices
>> >> >> with tutorial and Life Science assembly-manual on DVD -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> get it today, and soon teachers will be writing of you:
>> >> >> "Makes friends easily . . . . "
>> >> >Niels:
>> >> >And how much do they cost? Like a million U.S. dollars?
>> >> Will the Pen-man:
>> >> Doesn't matter - we'll make our own money, too.
>> >Niels:
>> >Of course... well.. just give me one then!
>> Shop-Assistant:
>> dee-lighted !
>>
>> <wraps up Evolution-R-Us Beginner Kit>
>Niels:
>Thanks, but could you put the manual DVD on a CD-ROM?
>I don't have a DVD driver around here :-(
Shop-Assistant:
Sure, no problem - we can even add it to your favourite music-CD,
so you can work on your project while listening to songs.
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