Paul Heslop wrote:
>
> elag wrote:
>
> >
> > > I think the problem here, right now at least, is that people know they're going
> > > to be screwed whoever gets in.
> >
> > I think it's pretty safe to assume that w/ politicians anywhere.
>
> What's the saying... "Wanting to be a politician should be reason enough for it not to
> be allowed"?
I turned up:
"Those who desire power are, by nature of that desire, unfit to wield it."
but I can't track down the source.
> >
> >
> > > There is a problem that they genuinely believe the
> > > Lib Dems cannot take power, hence will often just not vote rather than vote the
> > > third way. With the two main parties there used to be a distinguishing factor,
> > > with Conservatives being for money and business and Labour being socialist and
> > > for the common man. Now with the bright and shiny (New) labour unless you're
> > > pretty rich you'll get shafted.
> >
> > That's pretty much the story here as well. The Right has moved so far
> > to the right that the Left had to inch past the middle to keep pace. Of
> > course, the fix is always in for the wealthy.
>
> Sure is, and it seems to be getting worse
Megacorps are practically Gov'ts now. They barely even hide it any
more. Italy and the US could be considered the harbingers of Corporatism.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
> >
> >
> > > Of course they will throw in a few sweeteners
> > > near election time, only to throttle us afterwards,
> >
> > That used to be the only real difference... the Left would throw a sop
> > at "the people" even while both parties were busy feathering their nest.
> > At some point they found out that they didn't even need the sop... just
> > so long as there were still a few billionaire donors around.
>
> The tories even did it here during Thatcher years. they realised that they could get
> young people to vote for them by offering bigger tax allowances for first time home
> buyers etc. Of course once in office they just shafted them again.
So, are all their jobs being "outsourced" to India, China, &tc. as in
the good ol' USA?
> >
> >
> > > but I'm actually scared at
> > > how easily people seem to have accepted Blair's almost dictatorial methods. His
> > > latest one of refusing a referendum about the new EU constitution is scary. There
> > > are certainly signs that it could lead to fundamental changes in the british
> > > constitution, yet he blankly refuses to let the people have a say as he knows
> > > they will turn it down.
> >
> > So, what percentage of eligible Brits vote?
> >
>
> Mori (opinion polls) says
>
> "turnout at 59% in the 2001 general election was the lowest in any general election
> since 1918."
Is that 58% of eligible or registered voters?
In the 2000 US elections just over 50% of eligible and over 80% of
registered voters went to the polls.
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