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Subject: Re: voting machines
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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:43:47 GMT
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elag wrote:
> Paul Heslop wrote:
> >
> > elag wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Heslop wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul Kinsler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Electronic Voting Debacle
> > > > > By Scott Granneman,
> > > > > SecurityFocusPosted: 18/11/2003 at 11:51 GMT
> > > > >
> > > > > Grave concerns over the security of electronic voting
> > > > > machines in the United States means the heart of American
> > > > > democracy is at risk, writes SecurityFocus columnist
> > > > > Scott Granneman.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/34051.html
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > #Paul
> > > >
> > > > It's a little like locking the door after the Bush got in though, isn't
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > People would still like to be sure that thir votes are recorded. Many
> > > people may make use of (mailed in) absentee ballots, if they are
> > > suspicious of the eVoting.
> > >
> > > --
> > > replace "NINE" with "9" to reply
> >
> > Mail ballots are just starting to take a hold here, mainly to combat
> > lethargy.
>
> People that lethargic probably aren't much interested in Democracy
> anyway. As it is, absentee ballots are only counted in close elections
> or recounts. If enough people are suspicious of the lack of
> verification in the current eVote system the numbers might be sufficient
> to make counting them a matter of course.
>
> How do your mail ballots work. Is it meant mainly for people who are
> out of town for extended periods, or does it have some other function?
>
> --
> Replace "NINE" with "9" to reply.
I think the problem here, right now at least, is that people know they're going
to be screwed whoever gets in. There is a problem that they genuinely believe the
Lib Dems cannot take power, hence will often just not vote rather than vote the
third way. With the two main parties there used to be a distinguishing factor,
with Conservatives being for money and business and Labour being socialist and
for the common man. Now with the bright and shiny (New) labour unless you're
pretty rich you'll get shafted. Of course they will throw in a few sweeteners
near election time, only to throttle us afterwards, but I'm actually scared at
how easily people seem to have accepted Blair's almost dictatorial methods. His
latest one of refusing a referendum about the new EU constitution is scary. There
are certainly signs that it could lead to fundamental changes in the british
constitution, yet he blankly refuses to let the people have a say as he knows
they will turn it down.
--
Paul.
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