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From: kwigd144@aol.com (Kwigd144)
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Date: 31 Oct 2003 23:38:03 GMT
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Subject: Dear Parry and John (and everyone),
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Dear Parry and John (and everyone), I did write it and I kept getting E-mails
from the WAH's Fashion Designer who was very mean to me! He could not
understand the criticism and he started whining to me about how sore his body
was from working so hard on the Fashion Show! He called me a, "whack" and did
not appreciate the criticism of Brave Destiny in the least. He said the Fashion
Show was being true to the, "genre" and that even if Breton were alive (and
maybe would not appreciate it), everyone had a good time anyway. Then I get
this E-mail from Rene (not our dearly departed Rene but probably Eric or Xtian
giving me the business as usual, who knows) and it appears that the Director of
the Brave Destiny Show did not have good things to say about that signature
list and protest. Here is the complete E-mail and also the E-mails and
responses that Rene has graciously made available to me and now I will make
available to you all. By the way, IT appears that The SURREALISTS pissed off
the Brave Destiny's Director and he is making fun of them, which I think is a
big mistake in judgement, for he does not know how serious and radical you
crazy bastards really are, so here is the E-mail and
enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subj: KEITH!
Date: 10/31/2003 1:29:49 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: rene_crevel@yahoo.com
To: Kwigd144@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Someone sent this to me. I tried forwarding it before.
> [disneyNASAborg]
> _TECHNETIUM_
> http://www.tc43.com
> http://www.wnvirus.com
> http://www.resonant-wave.net
> http://www.surrealistfashion.net
> [1].917.721.4437
> ICQ#106074988
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kwigd144@aol.com
> To: surreal@tc43.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:10 PM
> Subject: Dear Surreal, My name is Keith Wigdor. I am
a Surrealist.
>
> Dear Surreal, My name is Keith Wigdor. I am a
Surrealist. I hope that
> you are not offended by this E-mail. I just wanted
to let you know
> that I believe deep within my heart that your
organization is
> exploiting Surrealism and it is really offensive to
the legacy of
> Andre Breton. I understand that you are in the
business of Fashion
> Presentation, but to consider this Event at the WAH
Center as
> Surrealist, is really a disgrace to the legacy of
Andre Breton. I do
> respect you and I do not want to offend you with a
rant, but I must
> respectfully communicate my feelings regarding this
fashion show that
> you have already put on at the WAH Center. There
really is nothing
> revolutionary about charging $30 a submission to
have someone who is
> really struggling to be known for their fashion and
artistic
> creativity, to be presented as Surrealist Activity,
you can leave
this
> up to the Dali Museums, at least they admit they are
in the business,
> but I find this Surrealist Fashion Show to be very
insulting to the
> legacy of Breton (and though I am a fan of Fashion
and Daliesque
> Surrealism), but this is not Surrealism, but if you
think it is,
fine,
> that is cool. I just wanted you to know my feelings
regarding this
> matter. We live in such a consumer designated
society as is, and to
> see the WAH Center and your organization present
this event as
> Surrealism is really off base, but again, I guess
that you need to
> make money like any business. If Andre Breton were
alive today, I
> doubt he would approve of this event. I wish you
success though, I am
> not mean-spirited, I just had to let you know my
feelings concerning
> this matter. I hope that you are not offended by me
writing to you, I
> just wanted you to know my feelings regarding this
event and I have
no
> ill feelings towards it, I just don't approve of it
as Surrealism,
> maybe a little close to Daliesque Surrealism and
Celebrity Worship,
> but nothing to do with Breton. Thank You, Keith
Wigdor, Surrealist
> PEACE!
>
Surrealist or not, it was damned fun!!! Terrance
On Monday, October 27, 2003, at 09:24 AM, Yuko Nii
wrote:
> This came by email to the Williamsburtg Art &
Historical Center
> yesterday as a threat to burn and destroy the art
show and its
> participants!. Talks about true surrealism being an
"organized
> self-conscious" movement, exactly the opposite of
what it was defined
> as originally. Also I do not think that surrealism
stands for
"radical
> transformation of the world," rather individual
self enlightenment,
> and a sharing of that. Obviously those who signed
this are
> intellectually and spiritually retarded! Is there a
way to educate
> them? Best to All! Terrance Lindall, Director of
Brave Destiny
>
>
> On Sunday, October 26, 2003, at 06:45 AM, Rene
Crevel wrote:
>
>> CRAVEN DESTINY
>>
>> What would you think if someone, after almost a
>> century of an organized, self-conscious movement,
came
>> along and claimed to speak and act for that
movement,
>> while remaining completely ignorant of its aims and
>> principles? This is exactly what is happening at
the
>> Williamsburg Art and Historical Center under the
guise
>> of their Brave Destiny exhibition, in which New Age
>> angel and unicorn painters -- led by such wizards
of
>> recuperation as Professor Ernst Fuchs, H.R. Giger,
and
>> the Society for Art of the Imagination -- conjoin
with
>> bourgeois hoopla about cash prizes, fashion shows,
and
>> artistic prestige to create a flagrant
>> misrepresentation of surrealism.
>>
>> Surrealism stands for the revolution of the mind,
for
>> the manifestation of poetry in everyday life, for
the
>> revolt of the pleasure principle against the
confines
>> of the existing social reality, and for poetry made
by
>> all, not one! Surrealism wants nothing less than
the
>> radical transformation of the world, and spits on
>> anyone clinging to the repressive corpse of
consumer
>> capitalism and its art specialists!
>>
>> To this end, we will converge upon this exhibition
>> during its final days, burn the paintings, and hurl
>> the squirming participants, ridiculous costumes or
>> not, into the East River!
>>
>>
>> Frank Antonsen, Johannes Bergmark, Daniel C. Boyer,
>> Eric Bragg, Richard Burke, Susan Burke, Stephen
Clark,
>> Tom Clarkson, Andrew Daily, Barrett John Erickson,
>> Jill Fenton, Sarah Frances, Brandon Freels, Richard
>> Genovese, Parry Harnden, Dale M. Houstman, William
>> Howe, Stuart Inman, Philip Kane, Morgan Miller,
>> Ribitch, MK Shibek, Darren Thomas, Andrew Torch,
Chris
>> Webster, Darryl Lorenzo Wellington, Zazie.
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