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Subject: Re: 14 July 1789
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 03:48:38 -0400
Organization: Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
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Paul Heslop wrote:
>
> elag wrote:
>
> > > > A shame, fresh ground coffee is one of the nicest smells I can think
> > > > of... you're not pregnant, are you?
> > >
> > > :O) I've had a tummy problem since all this weirdness took hold. I don't
> > > know if it's linked
> > > but it has stopped me eating a lot of stuff.
> >
> > I sympathize... the great variety of food flavors scents colors and
> > textures are such a great source of pleasure for me. I just got an
> > ancient Roman cookbook, and I'm having a lot of fun playing around w/
> > their range of flavors. They didn't have many of our favorite foods,
> > like potatos, corn (maize), tomatos and peppers so it's an interesting
> > change of pace. I'd expect that all the garum (fish sauce) that they
> > used might put you off...
>
> Yurk! Fish sauce! I bought a chinese cookbook (love the stuff!) and it
> mentioned stuff like oyster sauce all the way through. Of course we
> bought bottles of this and bottles of that, all used just the once...
> ach, why would I want my chicken to taste of fish? :O)
> The only strong smell I can tolerate is meat cooking.
Fish sauce actually works quite well in Vietnamese fish dishes. I
substitute Vietnamese fish sauce (Nuoc mam) for Garum even though it's
likely somewhat different. The Romans used it as the equivalent of soy
sauce... the Fishy flavor didn't always predominate. I've found that if
you add just enough so that the fish flavor is just below the threshold
of detection it really enriches nearly any dish.
>
> >
>
> > > > You can always give 'em a set of wind up chattering teeth, or a set of
> > > > shark teeth, or maybe a broken comb and a piece of wax paper.
> > >
> > > :O) Yeah, the wind up ones would be fun!
> >
> > There are even varieties w/ feet.
>
> :O) The littlest, Sophia, would run screaming from the room!
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a human jawbone I found in the Paris catacombs, but it's missing
> > > > a lot of teeth.
> > >
> > > Well, it has more than I do! You kept it? Gruesome!
> >
> > I couldn't resist. I went down for a bit of exploring with some film
> > crew pals and an American who was into the "cataphile" scene. We were
> > crawling on all fours, through piles of bones which had spilled out of
> > the walls. On a whim, I tossed a bone into my knapsack. It looks to be
> > the jaw of an aged person... possibly female because of its small size.
> > It doesn't worry me any more than a bone that I might see in a museum.
> > I can see how it might get me into trouble if someone found it lying
> > around my pad.
> >
> :O) There was a time when I would have done the same, except the Paris
> bit (haven't ever been abroad) but one of the serious points of OCD is
> the omen or portent angle. You start to do something, or try to stop
> doing something, and suddenly your brain starts screaming warnings of
> impending doom. Something as harmless as collecting a discarded thing
> becomes a huge and terrible event. As a child I was a scavenger, as an
> adult i can't dispose of unwanted things and have to go through hell to
> replace or try out new things.
As long as you throw out the chicken bones and orange rinds...
>
> > > >
> > > > Today the Woolsack is stuffed with wool from several countries of
> > > > the Commonwealth, to symbolise unity.
> > > >
> > > Aye, stupid me. I hate politics so much (believe it or not) that these
> > > tidbits often escape an otherwise addled mind.
> >
> > Well, now you have some nice trivia for livening up you next party.
> >
> > "Hey, anybody want to hear about the woolsack?"
>
> It would send them screaming for the door :O)
Probably... but you could lure them back w/ a few good Thatcher impressions.
>
> > > > Sure, he's dead... I still think of him every time I hear a bad voice job.
> > >
> > > Aye, his son does some now?
> >
> > So I hear. He did Tiny Toons... but Mel is still the giant in the field.
>
> Yes, without doubt. The Muppet people are good,
...especially the guys who did Rigel and Pilot on Farscape.
> and the folks who do theSimpsons etc.
...abso-diddly-lutely
> We have some good satirical animated comedies over here
> atm. 2DTV and something called Monkey Dust are both excellent, topical
> and well done. But none of them have a voice which you know will live
> forever, such as Mel's.
I've never seen those... yes, I think the "man of 1000 voices" will
amuse people even 100 years hence.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > I introduced my eldest grandchild to the delights of tex Avery the other
> > > > > day. Last year it was Tom and Jerry. It's not easy with all the brightly
> > > > > coloured blobs on tv but she is one of those 6 year olds who will
> > > > > actually sit through a movie.
> > > >
> > > > Ah... Tex Avery... in France he is a god. At least Cartoon Network
> > > > still runs his toons occasionally.
> > >
> > > Every day atm :O)
> >
> > Not very often over here.
>
> The BBC used to play them often, but now it's left to Cartoon Network
> etc. We used to get series of the best animators, so you knew you would
> get a big lump of them then.
Unfortunately, CN - US is favoring mostly anime these days, little of
which interests me.
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > "I want to sing-a, about the moon-a and the june-a and the spring-a..."
> > > > -Owl Jolson
> > >
> > > I loved when South Park did their version of it with Cartman bursting
> > > into song.
> >
> > Yes, that was a great sequence. I generally find South Park more
> > idiotic than funny, but they have had a few great moments. That one is,
> > of course, much funnier for those that have seen the original cartoon.
> > Tex Avery was one of the few who could successfully raise that type of
> > cartoon to a level above the bland and cutesy.
>
> Our favourites were the wolf ones, all the whistling and howling at the
> table while the woman does her torch song. The asides are brilliant and
> the originals of the jaw dropping and eye popping are the peak of
> animation lunacy.
That's the classic stuff, of course. It's been copied so often that its
originality seems somewhat dampened, these days. I'd love to see his
Lantz stuff (Chilly Willy, &tc.) again.
> Everyone else seems to warn you five minutes in
> advance that a joke is coming, while Tex just hit you over and over and
> over. The newer Tom and Jerrys were very bad for telegraphing jokes, or
> dragging them out until they just weren't funny anymore.
Yes, the later ones are terrible, they even became friends! I guess the
producers hadn,t heard that comedy and drama are based on conflict.
And the less said about the degradingly infantile "Tom and Jerry Kids",
the better.
Basically, once the toons moved from theatricals to TV they were mostly
transformed into pap for infinks. Most of that stuff can never compare
to the theatrical ones which were written for adults.
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