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From: elag <elag@cloud8.net>
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Subject: Re: Best surrealistic directors / movies?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:40:20 -0500
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Parry wrote:
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> elag wrote:
> >
> > Parry wrote:
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> > > Andreas Moss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey people.
> > > > I'm looking for tips on great surrealistic directors..
> > > >
> > > > Jodorowsky..
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyone else that do equal great movies?
> > >
> > > Jean Cocteau.
> > >
> > > Just kidding. I'll recommend some titles but first note there are
> > > problems with your very question. A director like Fellini may have
> > > affinities with surrealism, but is not a surrealist. Lynch even less so.
> > > A semantic distinction can be made, as Elag likes to point out, between
> > > "surreal" and "surrealist." The confusion typically occurs when someone
> > > mistakenly thinks surrealism is the use of a certain type of imagery.
> >
> > Yes, my main argument is that popular usage has transformed the word
> > "surreal" into litle more than a synonym for "weird", and so rendered it
> > useless. I'll use "surrealistic" if a film exhibits mannered mimicking
> > of superficial aspects of the visual style of the original Surrealists
> > between the wars (commonly, cribs from Dali, Magritte, Chirico, Bunuel
> > or Cocteau). In all other cases I prefer more specific terms, like
> > "dreamlike", "Nightmarish" or "Bunuelesque". I'd reserve "surrealist"
> > for the output of members of recognized Surrealist groups.
>
> Perhaps you should add your definition to urbandictionary.com, which is
> a people's dictionary without quality control, sort of a ridiculous
> counterpart to Wikipedia. It has no entry for "surrealism," but the
> definitions of "dada" aren't bad:
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dadaism
I posted pretty much the whole spiel under "surreal".
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