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Subject: Re: Best surrealistic directors / movies?
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:53:33 -0500
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john adams wrote:
>
> "Dale Houstman" <dmh7@citilink.com> wrote in message
> news:403A02A0.1030905@citilink.com...
> >
> >
> > john adams wrote:
> > > "Parry" <parry@perfectOMITmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4033F095.FCE@perfectOMITmail.com...
> > >
> > >>Andreas Moss wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Thanks for a GREAT answer Parry.
> > >>>Well, surrealism or surrealistic.. I don't really care. To me its just
> a
> > >>>keyword to finding movies I seem to enjoy. (Even though I would argue
> on
> > >>>early Lynch not being surrealism.., but thats not important..)
> > >>>
> > >>>May I add some questions?
> > >>>
> > >>>1. Why is Jean Cocteau a joke? I haven't seen anything with him, but I
> > >>
> > > heard
> > >
> > >>>he's done some good movies? Could you elaborate?
> > >>
> > >>He's a director who, in ancient times, would wrongly be labeled
> > >>"surrealist." Surrealists hate him for being a pretentious,
> > >>religionistic "fake poet."
> > >
> > >
> > > I still think Blood of a Poet is great now and especially for its time.
> > >
> > > "..."
> > >
> >
> >
> > I think he made several interesting films, including "Beauty and the
> > Beast" and "L'Enfants Terribles" but after reading his memoirs, I
> > discovered he was an appalling lover of Nazi parties, luxury, and
> > celebrities, a social-climber, and an elitist aesthete.
>
> That's what I've heard. Not very much to be proud of, unless you
> like nazi parties, celebrities, luxury, and elitism.
Still, I enjoy his films, such as they are, and I should view them,
rather than ignore them, in light of Cocteau's life. The same might be
said of "Olympia" or "Triumph of the Will" (admittedly extreme
examples). These all have at the least a historical value.
I eMember saying this about "Le Sang d'un Poete ":
I recently (re)viewed "The Blood of a Poet" by Jean Cocteau. Although
Cocteau's pacing is a bit uneven, to say the least, I was amazed at how
impressive the soundtrack is. The rich and varied use of ambient noise
gives the film a texture which is amazing for the period.
A video clip is available at:
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~pkon/Cocteau.html
It seems to me that "poetic" sound editing was almost unheard of until
the '60's. Bunuel was particularly good at exploiting the possibilities
of multiple tracks in films such as "Fantom of Liberty" in which the
almost subliminal sound of crocodiles and bells can be heard.
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