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From: elag <elag@cloud8.net>
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Subject: Re: A way for surrealists to take over the world
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:55:38 -0500
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Allsmoky wrote:
>
> "elag" <elag@cloud8.net> wrote in message
> news:40271396.E99DAC57@cloud8.net...
> > Allsmoky wrote:
> > >
> > > "Telicalbook" <telicalbook@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> > > news:20040203235535.11576.00001255@mb-m12.aol.com...
> > > > Hi...
> > > >
> > > > Got any plans?
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Pearson
> > > > http://www.rspearson.com/
> > > > ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net
> > > > R.S. Pearson Music Page http://www.rspearson.com/rsmusic.html
> > > >
> > > If it proceeds according to a plan, is it still surrealism? History
> shows
> > > regimes are replaced by other repressive regimes who continue the same
> > > practices shrouded in new jargon.
> >
> >
> >
> > I must admit that I have the same concern vis a vis ANY revolution.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > It would be a shame if, just as it took
> > > over the world, surrealism became minimalism or something like that.
> >
> >
> >
> > That doesn't sound likely, but corruption is always a possibility.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > That would just be a crying shame.
> > > Perhaps all that is required is not standing in the way and actively
> helping
> > > as the world turns more surreal every day.
> > > oar, 2 putetre an other whey,
> > > Every day more surreal as the world turns helping and actively in the
> way is
> > > not standing that is perhaps all.
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, how do you define "surreal"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'm infatuated with this group. :)) I hope you all don't mind my
> barging
> > > in. Anyone have any histroy lessons for me (re this ng?)
> > > I will now proceed to chemically restrain myself.
> >
> >
> > In recent history an embarrassment of trolls and increasing flame wars
> > have taken their toll. The regulars are mostly gone, and there is
> > little left other than drive by posters & assorted nuts. This could, of
> > course, change at any time... a group is but the sum of its parts.
> >
> > In the past there have been periods of interesting (to me) discussion of
> > surrealist obsessions such as Desire and the Imagination, collaborative
> > poems, and even image manipulation (before most servers began refusing
> > binaries for this group).
> >
> > Will there be an alt.surrealism renaissance?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > replace "8" with "9" to reply
>
> Consider me a drive-by -- possibly.
> My understanding of surrealism construes it as an experimental and free
> expression which welcomes collaboration.
You're on the right track, but as was said in the Declaration of January
27, 1925: "Surrealism is not a new means of expression, or an easier
one, nor even a
metaphysics of poetry. It is a means of total liberation of the mind and of
all that resembles it ..." (from the FAQ)
or anyway it is important to make clear that Surrealism is "not about
art" as the former regs were fond of saying. What I would say is that
art is merely (or mainly) an artifact of Surrealist exploration.
Collaboration would be viewed as essential.
> It recognizes that popular
> perceptions of reality support and are supported by our way of life and our
> power structures. And wants to subvert that reality.
That sounds like a good description of that aspect.
>
> Would you want your sugar-glass-screened monitor to be a flat screen or a
> good old fashioned box? I'm thinking box. :)
At the time I wrote it I had nary a thought about Flat screens but if
pressed I'd say that those remind be more of "fruit roll-ups", those
horrid excrescences of consumerism.
>
> Reading FAQ now.
Somewhere a sunflower turns its face towards tomorrow.
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