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From: flip <flippo@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: Self-Replicating File Sharing Bots To Defeat RIAA
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In article <4rgphvgubroqn832cq6n00f31p066fitba@4ax.com>,
Norton Zenger <dogwander@frostwarning.com> wrote:
> flip come on down:
>
> >> You find me *legal* CDs, ie: either genuine new where my purchasing will
> >> benefit the artists (ie: not 'pirated' onto CD-Rs) or second-hand of same
> >> in
> >> playable condition, of any of the above, I'll buy them.
> >
> >Some of them are CDs, the others are LPs or cassettes. If I were
> >interested in doing your work for you without being paid, I'd probably
> >have been able to find more on CD, as well.
> >
> >Less than 5 minutes and I found you legal copies of 100% of your
> >requirements - and your music is far, far harder to find than 99% of
> >what's being stolen.
> >
> >Thanks for proving my point.
>
> Oh, good. While you're up to all that, think you could track down a copy of
> Super Freego's sole album? Oxy and the Morons' "War"? The original Blorp
> Essette album with Rev. Toad-Eater's "Alden Street"? The first "Between"
> album, featuring James Galway playing Krautrock? Roz Croney's limbo album
> with the Sun Ra Arkestra? The rare Cornelius EP where he remixes Bruce
> Haack?
Personally, I don't have much objection to downloading music if, after
an extensive search, one can show that it's no longer available from any
source.
In the case of the first challenge, I showed that it only took me 5
minutes to find every one he requested. I'm not going to repeat it again
because it's irrelevant.
If it's available, you're morally obligated to buy it or do without.
If it's NOT available (after an extensive search, not just looking at
the local record store), then I would consider it to be a gray area. Of
course, if you download it and then it later becomes available, I would
consider you to have a moral obligation to buy it.
>
> Well, anyway, you can spend a prohibitive amount of money buying a worn out
> LP
> by someone who is quite possibly dead and who in any case won't see the
> profits, and then spend more time and energy transferring it to digital
> format, or you can wait for some other enthusiast to go to all that trouble
> and download it. I don't even _own_ a turntable. I own plenty of vinyl
> albums, mind you, but I can't listen to them. Go figure.
>
Once again, if you own the LP, I don't consider it to be a problem if
you download the track for your computer. That's essentially equivalent
to ripping it yourself.
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