In article <bfj00k02qm8@drn.newsguy.com>,
peetopee <peetopee_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <flippo-356EDB.21383621072003@news.central.cox.net>, flip says...
> >
> >In article <5n7phvg0d7ko443us37h7vj1kfi6r3oivq@4ax.com>,
> > stelian <usenet@stelian.tk> wrote:
> >
> >> peetopee wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >My water company wants
> >> >to raise rates 30%. They are going to get it. My gas company raised
> >> >rates
> >> >30%
> >> >two and a half years ago. Now thet require another 30% raise. My
> >> >electric
> >>>company also is going to raise their rates. USA's prescription drug
> >>>pricess
> >> >are
> >> >out of control. I can't afford a hockey game anymore. AND CD PRICES
> >> >ARE
> >> >TOO
> >> >HIGH!!
> >> [...]
> >> >Why is it other industries: PC, Electronics etc have restructured their
> >> >prices
> >> >in accordance to free market, but the music industry proceeds to treat
> >> >the
> >> >consumer like crap?
> >>
> >> You have found the answer. You can always buy your DDR memory from
> >> somebody
> >> else. Or
> >> a television set. The market has always preferred open (often inferior)
> >> solutions to
> >> proprietary technology - Betamax and MD come to mind.
> >> But you cannot change your gas, water, or electric company easy. You
> >> cannot
> >> change
> >>the entertainment conglomerates easy. It's an oligopoly situation, and
> >>their
> >> making
> >> the most of it.
> >
> >That's nonsense.
> >
> >If you don't like their music, buy from an independent label. Or make
> >your own music. Or do without.
> >
> >Just like if you don't like BMW's pricing, you're free to buy a Ford or
> >a Lexus or a Schwinn.
>
> Yes I can buy from an independent label or make my own music. This is the
> exact
> solution that the music industry has for me. "You don't like it, you can
> stick
> it." See where it is getting us in this great controversy ...or debate?
That's the way every market works.
The vendor sets a price. If you don't like it, you can't have the
product - you have to do without or buy something different.
Why should music be any different?
> Once
> again you are making my case that there is not a FREE MARKET solution being
> offered. Somehow the rest of the world has had to operate on less of a profit
Of course it's a free market. They set the price, you can choose whether
or not to buy.
If enough people don't buy, then they'll lower their prices.
Your concept of a free market is 'if you don't lower your price to $1.99
per CD, then I'm going to steal it.
Sorry, that's not a free market.
> margin per corporation. ...I know there are exceptions..., but the recording
> industry seems to think that they are offering a superior product. They just
I don't think so. They're offering a product. You can take it or leave
it.
> aren't. I get a 4% raise every year no matter what my performance has been,
> and
> I work like crazy. A record industry has gotten used to throwing millions of
> dollars of contract money at an artist for unforeseen product and profit.
So much for the 'I steal the music because the artists are starving'
argument being thrown around here.
> They
> then lose millions on the Whitney Houstons, and the KING OF POP... who knows
> who
> else. Afterwards, they turn around and blame us for their non-intellectual
> decisions. Even the sports industry is starting to wisen up.
I agree. That's why I don't pay to watch professional sports.
What does that have to do with stealing music?
>
> Man!!! I gotta tell you. I want to get irrational and say a bunch of
> childish
> things here. Lower prices for music. Make the consumer happy to buy the
> product. Time is money ...for some of us anyway... Just think!!! No more
> time
> spent looking for high quality downloads, no more time spent burning CDs.
> Nope
> just go to the store see a CD that you want, and buy it, because it does not
> necessarily mean that now my kids will have to do without a pair of jeans for
> back to school.
That's nice. I'd like to seem BMWs for $10,000, too. But the vendor sets
the price. If you don't like it, you don't buy.
'I'm only taking it because they charge too much' is a ridiculous
rationalization.
I'm willing to bet that if they cut their prices in half tomorrow, file
'sharing' would continue with almost no slowdown.
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