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hoo.com (Qopel) wrote in message news:<409ea18e.421878500@news.optonline.net>...
> What Happened to Access Central???
> By Andrew Herzman
>
> There are 2 sides to every story...but this is my version:
> Access Central Radio
> Access Central used to have a radio show on WGBB 1240am. I took the
> timeslot over from Mike Frankson who used to broadcast the L.I. Music
> Zone before he moved down to Florida. When I took over the show, a guy
> who called himself "Red" came by the station and said he was
> interested in radio and wanted to watch me do the show. I didn't see
> any harm in it, so I said yes. Big mistake! After the show, Red
> offered to get advertisers for the show. I made a deal with him that
> we would split the income 50/50. The next week he came back with an
> audiotape full of ads and money. All well and good. Then Red tells me
> he has to talk on the radio because he LIED to the advertisers and
> said he was the co-host of the show! He said if he didn't say anything
> on the radio, the ads would be no more. So, in order to cover for his
> lies, I let him say a few words on the radio. Every show he talked
> longer and longer, until he was even playing a "pick of the week" song
> and everything. OK, all well and good...but then he gets the idea that
> the audio engineer is somehow riding his microphone "low". Red goes
> over my head to the radio management to complain about the engineer.
> Word gets back to me that he told management that the show was half
> his because he paid for half! Yes, he did get to keep half of the ad
> money and yes he did appear on the show, but the show was 100% under
> my name. Red then started to take lessons on how to work the audio
> board at the station. Well...it ended up where Red took all the ads
> and the timeslot and I ended up with nothing. Sly, eh?
> Access Central TV
> After what happened to me at WGBB, I posted a warning to the
> "longislandmusicscene" list on Yahoo, warning others to be careful if
> they do business with Red. It just so happened that the
> owner/moderator of that list, Richard Hughes, was on vacation at the
> time I posted that warning. Because others before me had attacked Red
> in a personal matter (which is against the list rules), Rich took it
> as me joining the Red bashing bandwagon. I got a very nasty e-mail
> from Mr. Hughes that said I was placed on "moderated" status and that
> he was very angry that he "had to" do this while he was on vacation
> (as if there was a way in hell I could have known when he takes his
> vacation). When Rich Hughes got back from vacation, we e-mailed each
> other and he admitted that my post was written professionally and was
> "borderline" when it came to his rules. I then asked to be taken off
> moderated status, and Rich refused. I didn't think that was fair after
> Rich himself said I really didn't break any rules to begin with. I
> wanted to know if he believed in free speech since he felt he needed
> to moderate me. His reply was, "Free speech isn't, never has been,
> and never will be about some whiny little asshole getting to say
> whatever he wants whenever he wants."
> He then invited me to have it out with him on another list. His
> concern was that there would be no personal insults on his own list,
> since that was against the rules of his list. OK, fine and dandy. I
> tried to make my point why I shouldn't have been placed on moderated
> status to begin with and why I shouldn't be on moderated status now.
> Rich only replied by saying that I should stop "whining" and acting
> like a child. Needless to say, I started getting nasty out of
> frustration. Mr. Hughes also got nasty. When I pointed out that he was
> doing the exact same thing that he would punish other for doing on his
> own list he apologized. Still, he refused to take me off moderated
> status. Of course, I still didn't give up and Mr. Hughes accused me of
> throwing "temper tantrums".
> Since this all happened on a public message board, other LIMC members
> took it upon themselves to gang up on me to "defend" Rich Hughes.
> Funny how Rich got angry when he thought I was ganging up on Red, but
> found it perfectly OK for his buddies to gang up on me. Here's an
> example of what I had to put up with: "Do me a huge favor Andy... Ban
> me from your TV show, Ban me from your free services and
> Ban me from anything that you are ever directly involved with.
> Permanently...Thank You, Todd Shea
> So, this all went on for months, and finally Rich got tired of trying
> to defend himself from my logic and points, so one day he says that I
> am "wrong" and he has nothing more to say. Isn't that very adult of
> him? In any case, I still kept posting my protest to get taken off
> moderated status . I noticed others on the list were posting things
> that were actually against his "rules" and weren't getting moderated
> so I pointed that out.
> That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Rich said"...at this
> point, I wouldn't even let you back on
> the list moderated, because you are SUCH A FUCKING PAIN IN THE ASS! So
> you're no longer moderated -- you're banned. NOW you've got something
> really good to whine about."
> That cut me off from promoting the show on his list.
> Members of the LIMC tell me that being banned from the list can't hurt
> a TV show like ACTV and that there are alternative ways to promote the
> show. I beg to differ. The "alternative" (print, radio and TV ads)
> ways cost big $$$. The list was free.I think Mike Ferrari from Aural
> Fix says it best:"... the members on this list had to sign themselves
> up to it, it does not solicit members, you opt-in to it....600 out of
> 2,000 is a sizable proportion of the local music population, it's just
> under a third of the local music population...you know this is a
> captive audience so to speak. This is your market, it's local music
> makers, fans, and businesses and media."
> I was banned from a list that reaches about 1/3 of a captive target
> audience. The damage was, and still is, enormous.
> When I posted a protest on my own website, Mr. Hughes again tried to
> control my speech by telling lies to my webhost provider in a futile
> attempt to censor my words:
> "Dear iHost,
>
> I'm having a problem with someone who has a website on your server.
> offending site is www.accesscentral.tv, run by an Andrew Herzman.
>
> I run an e-mail list for Long Island musicians, and am the President
> the Long Island Music Coalition, an organization that works to promote
> bands and musicians here on Long Island.
>
> Recently, I had to remove Mr. Herzman from my e-mail list, as a result
> his unwillingness to follow the rules as well as his increasingly
> bizarre and abusive behavior.
>
> Mr. Herzman is now using his website to libel both myself and the
> Island Music Coalition. He has posted my image and my e-mail address
> permission, and has devoted an entire page that I consider to be
> link for the offending page is http://www.accesscentral.tv/future.htm
> .
>
> Acceptable Use policy, and force him to remove the offending page,
> I'm forced to take legal action to preserve my good reputation and the
> reputation of the LIMC.
>
> Thank you for your help in this matter."
>
> Sincerely,
> Richard Hughes
>
> The worst thing about this whole mess is that the entire local music
> scene has not cared at all about this injustice.
> The Long Island Music Coalition
> The LIMC's mission statement says in part: "The LIMC realizes that a
> successful music scene is one where the various components of the
> scene realize their interdependence upon one another and come together
> to promote the larger good."
> remember,the world is waiting patiently for your show to end,and for
> you to disappear forever.The local scene will be better off when you
>
> "Why not blame Al Quiada or George W. Bush or Jimmy Hoffa for the fact
> that nobody cared about your lame effort?" -Hank Porter
> to promote my high-quality show on the list. The response and
> cooperation I got from Rich Hughes, the President of the LIMC is the
> exact opposite of their mission statement. The list does nothing to
> encourage people to say their true feelings and ideas.
> "Free speech isn't, never has been, and never will be about some whiny
> little asshole getting to say whatever he wants whenever he wants."
>
> Look at what his brainwashed followers do: "...we beg Rich to
> moderate us so we don't post something we'll regret. I've done
> that....I'm a liberal" -Liz Smith
>
> They beg him to control them!!! It's like a cult! Why would
> a "liberal" beg Rich to moderate them?
>
> He banned me out of anger, because I refused to let him control me.
> Then he turned around and blamed it on "rules" I never broke. He is
> a very dangerous man and doesn't know how to be fair with the power
> he has. He still tries to control me by lieing to my internet
> provider saying I broke his rules (rules he can't name).
> He will not stop until his list and power is gone. He has proven it
> over and over again. He would rather have my show off the air rather
> than let me promote it on his list. He will NEVER allow me back on
> his list...not beacuse I broke his rules...because I stood up to him
> and wouldn't allow him to control me.
>
> I say the truth. That's why Rich tries to have my website taken
> down. He doesn't want the truth to be known. If it were lies he
> could have a lawyer make me take it down. Instead he lies to my
> Internet service provider in a futile attempt to have it taken down.
> Rich banned Mike Frankson for speaking up...because he is afraid of
> losing his power over people and can't tollerate anyone questioning
> his motives.. He really is a very dangerous control freak and will
> not stop hurting good people or the work they do for the scene.
>
> I say Rich Hughes should run his list like an American and allow
> other ideas and suggestions rather just his. When others are allowed
> to contribute with their own minds, will the scene really grow and
> prosper. Destroying other people's ideas, work and TV shows is the
> exact opposite of what the scene should be about. People need to
> stop giving him absolute power over them. It's wrong.
>
> I tested Rich's true motives by giving him the option of saving a TV
> show that helps the scene in exchange for allowing me to promote it on
> the list. He chose to let the show go under rather than admit he was
> wrong and look "weak". Anybody who truly wanted to help the scene
> would have done ANYTHING to make sure my show wouldn't go off the air,
> yet Rich and his buddies actually enjoyed the fact that it went
> under....because, in Rich's mind, it was competition to his show and
> his power.
> Any decent man would value and respect other people's opinions and
> work, instead of punishing them for it. Rich uses that list of his
> as a weapon to control people...not as a tool to help the scene.
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