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From: David.Paterson@csiro.au (David Paterson)
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Subject: Re: What are the *Most General* Categories of Music??? what are the main 'traditions'??
Date: 3 May 2004 22:37:56 -0700
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adamgolding@adamgolding.com (Adam Golding) wrote in message news:<cd483cf9.0405031243.287b59d1@posting.google.com>...
> <snip reasonalbe discussion of cross-pollination>
>
> what you say sounds mostly reasonable, but i should clarify that i'm
> mainly interested in identifying the main 'traditions' of music, not
> the genres--i.e. i know that bach and stravinsky are very different,
> but that they are both part of the art music 'tradition' and that i
> will encounter them, simply by finding out who is important in *that
> tradition*--but that method will only expose me to the music that is
> important in traditions i already know about--which is why i want to
> figure out what all the various traditions could be said to be.
Yeah. I think you'll find that 'traditions' and 'genres' are very
similar. Offshoots of style that were very different at the time they
were composed become absorbed into each other later on. In this way
'popular' is always eventually absorbed into 'classical'. On the other
hand traditions become entrenched and shrink into themselves (eg. the
loss of 'improvisation' from classical music) over time allowing the
formation of totally different offshoots (eg. Jazz).
I should have mentioned that there's a world of difference between
western influenced asian music and asian influenced western music -
they need different classifications.
> > On specific topics: "film music" isn't a category of its own.
>
> i was thinking of orchestral film music, which is why i put it in the
> Art Music category
OK.
> > "new age" can be thought of as the intrumental equivalent of "easy
> > listening".
>
> except that "easy listening" is basically an adjective, not a
> genre--and i've heard things from terry riley to mike oldfield called
> 'new age'--makes me wonder what this 'new age' thing even is..
I don't know either, by my view is that there's a need for modern
popular instrumental chamber music. That's New Age. It's a niche that
isn't being filled by any other type of music - 'modern classical' is
either old-fashiopned or not popular - 'jazz and similar & US country'
are no longer modern -'popular' isn't instrumental.
> > Adam Golding <nntpspam@adamspamgolding.com> wrote in message news:<8kua90hqjpqs76i0h5qrkkj01tuj8t7hn4@4ax.com>...
> > > i've been trying to determine what the pricipal varieties of music
> > > are, and here is my first try: it's oviously way-off--i want to hear
> > > from all of you what YOU think!!!
I don't know of any books on the subject but there must be some. There
may be plenty of websites eg.
http://www.music.indiana.edu/music_resources/genres.html
but then I'd hardly rate "Tango" as a music tradition on its own. It
fits within the whole "Spanish influenced South American"
tradition/genre.
I can't fully answer your question, perhaps you need a Linnaeus to
answer it. I just point out the approach that I would take. The answer
you want will depend on your reason for asking - If you want a rougly
equal number of items of each variety then your categories will be
vastly different from, say, a music historian.
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