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From: adamgolding@adamgolding.com (Adam Golding)
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Subject: Re: What are the *Most General* Categories of Music??? what are the main 'traditions'??
Date: 3 May 2004 13:46:09 -0700
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"Nicolai P. Zwar" <NPZwar@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:<c75btt$5id$1@online.de>...
> Adam Golding wrote:
>
> > i've been trying to determine what the pricipal varieties of music
> > are, and here is my first try: it's oviously way-off--i want to hear
> > from all of you what YOU think!!!
> >
> >
> > [THE WESTERN ART MUSIC TRADITION]
> > inlcudies early music, 'avant-garde' or 'new music', and film music --
> > this category has the clearest boundaries of them all, i think..
> >
> > [THE JAZZ TRADITION]
> > includes fusion, ragtime, and musicals
> >
> > [MAINSTREAM]
> > i was tempted to call this category 'rock' but i can imagine the
> > protests--in here i'm including ROCK, BLUES, HIP-HOP, RAP, ELECTRONICA
> > EASY-LISTENGIN, etc, basically the modern 'main stream' of music...
> > the kind of stuff columbia house carries in mass quantities... but
> > somehow i feel there should be another category for rap and hip-hop
> > etc. what do you think?
> >
> > [TRADITIONAL WORLD MUSIC]
> > ravi shankar, gamelan, etc. don't know much about all this, but it
> > seems appropriate to group it together...
> >
> > [WESTERN-INFLUENCED ASIAN MUSIC]
> > including game music (nobuo uematsu), jpop, anime soundtracks, etc.
> >
> > [NEW AGE]
> > maybe this belongs in my mainstream category
> >
> > [PROG ROCK]
> > ditto
> >
> > [ETHNICIZED MAINSTREAM]
> > i guess jpop should go in this category, as should bollywood music,
> > etc. basically western pop/rock with ethic flavours--a crossover
> > category but a large one
> >
> >
> > ok, so that's my take on music at large--obviously i need some
> > help--how are some of these categories percieved by their
> > listeners--are there books on this subject??
>
> If you lump together the entire tradition of Western Art Music into one
> category (which covers a lot of territory) you hardly need to
> differentiate between "ethnicized mainstream", "mainstream", "rock" and
> "prog rock", etc. let alone differentiating between "rock", "blues",
> "pop", and "rap".
fair enough, but what would i call this category then?? "western
popular music"?? does that include broadway? and i think the ethnic
varieties should be thought of separately from the rest of these
styles, since they seem taking cues from the 'western' varieties..
also, there is grout's history of western music, but are there similar
volumes which encompass all these styles?? i get the impresison that
you could find a book on hip hop, or on prog rock, but not one on
'popular music' in general which would touch on both...
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