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From: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:38:57 -0400, Doc NP-f31 wrote:
>On 19 Jul 2011 14:14:01 -0500, "Group_Troll"
><GroupTroll@Pissed.Off.nl> wrote:
>Dear Naughties,
>
>Thank you all for adding to the discussion. If I may I would like to
>answer your important points in one e-mail.
>
>>WOW! When trolls get together we fight. You humans must have a
>>wonderful ability to make friends/become friends. Openly talking about
>>your lives - he draws knowledge from you and you re-live your childhood
>>thru him. It must give both of you a warm, fuzzy feeling.
>
>Hi GT!
>
>You are a leader in the Troll Community, and as such, I proudly notice
>that you set an example foryour fellow Trolls by communicating
>effectively with non-Trolls (NT's). In this way you influence Troll
>Scoiety in a very subtle, but effective way. I have always believed
>that Troll Boys are very similar to NT Boys, do you find that to be
>the case?
>
>Your insight into NT male bonding is astute. We both got a warm and
>fuzzy feeling. In sharing, as you noted, we taught each other. He
>taught me about what the world looks like through his eyes. I shared a
>worldview that was tempered with the experience that life gives you.
>My experiences and viewpoint is different from what he has known and
>he is at an age when he is taking what he has been exposed to and
>building his own unique viewpoint. It was an honor to be a part of it
>and very instructive to one who pays very close attention to boys. I
>reveled in his presence and he in mine.
>
>>Did you two compare the likes and dislikes both of you have?
>
>Sure! It's interesting how he sees himself, compared to his father and
>grandfather, both were/are brilliant, one a scientist and inventor,
>the other a nuclear physicist. Zack knows that his Dad is a geek, he
>suspects he is a geek, but he is fighting the label. To encourage a
>boy to embrace his smarts is an interesting challenge. But when I told
>him how much I admired both of his predecessors and pointed out that
>he was in a position to take the family brains to the next level, I
>think he bought into it.
>
>>And I agree with you big time on him being able to discuss with you some
>>topics that he could not or should not discuss with his father - no
>>matter how open his father may be.
>
>It's true, Zack had no built in filter for everythign I say.So when he
>listened to what I had to say it was with an open mind. And he did
>listen because he knew how it felt to him when I listened closely to
>what he had to say.
>
>>Too bad you could not bring him home with you for a week.
>
>That would be great, but maybe I can be a bigger influence by
>legitiming (in his mind) the support structure that is already built
>into his life.
>
>Hey VV!
>
>>I did feel a certain regret that our society
>>seems to insist that anyone who is a bit chubby must have a low self
>>esteem. And because of this prejudice, it becomes fact.
>
>I agree, the mindset is damaging. Zack, at 14, is in the middle of
>the social warzone, but I think he has a healthy attitude about it.
>Certainly most of my efforts went toward showing him the value of his
>own 'self'. I saw this improve over three days.
>
>>If, as you say, a boy who is in love with you shall seek you out, then
>>I am bereft! For none must love ME, for I have not been out--SOUGHT!
>>Sotted, yes. Out-sought, no! Still, there's always hope!
>
>You know that I've always urged you to get out and amongst the boys in
>your world more. You shared a little of your situation, but you really
>have to be socially involved. The boys are there. They need you, be
>there for them. Shyness is not an excuse. You're not going to do
>anything to harm a child, no matter how tempted you are. Your head is
>on straight VV. You can start by going out and smiling at the first
>boy you see. You might be surprised by his reaction.
>
>Hey BenDog!
>
>>In a world where parents are fighting to get the bills paid and the
>>plates filled, having someone outside the family who can be talked to
>>and spend time with, is useful and in many cases essential. Many
>>youngsters have home and school and nothing else, so who do they talk
>>to when things are tough/confusing etc., and how do they learn to
>>express themselves - often the investment of a little time, love and
>>affection can alter a person, both receiver and giver, in a very short
>>space of time.
>
>You make a great point. When I get to know kids sometimes I am amazed
>at how unplugged their parents are from their lives. I've known boys
>who have Dads at home full time and they are starved for attention
>because Dad is too self absorbed, or couldn't be bothered to spend
>time with his son. I am the beneficiary of a relationship with a
>wonderful boy and the boy gets the attention he needs and is starved
>for at a critical moment. Very often, if we don't reach a boy by age
>14, we've lost him.
>
>You also point out so well that being all about a boy, giving of
>yourself unselfishly and without expectation of anything in return,
>usually ends up being one of the most fulfilling relationships guys
>like us ever have.
>
>Hey IFB!
>
>>Yes, it truly is wonderful how our special love for boys draws them
>>to us. Even little girls love me because of my overall love for all
>>children. My dad's girlfriend has brough her 2 daughters, ages 4 and
>>7 over a few times and the 2nd time they were over, the 7yo came up
>>to me and hugged me as soon as she got out of the car. :)
>
>You're right. Giving someone else your full attention and showing that
>you care will create the same amazing results with just about anyone
>in need of understanding. Have you ever tried giving an elderly person
>a boysmile? It would warm your heart to see the reaction. It takes so
>little effort to be unselfish and the rewards are staggering whether
>it's a grandmother, a little girl or one of our precious boys.
>
>Hey Rusty,
>
>>All I can say is, where were you
>>when I was a kid! I needed a friend like you
>>were with Zack when I was that age.
>
>I wish I had been able to be there for you. I'm sure we would have
>given each other much joy and friendship. I don't know what your needs
>are now, but I can stlll be a friend to you if you need one. That door
>is always open. Let me know if you need a good listener...
>
>Much love to you and all my friends here,
>
>Doc
>NP-f31
Dear Doc,
In regards to your last, thank you for your advice. My social
hesitation and shyness have always been part of me and I doubt
seriously I will change. But rest assured, I would indeed never be
even tempted to harm a child ... hug and tickle and kiss and fondle
and love ... yes ... but I would never harm a child.
Unless, of course, those actions meet the definition of harm.
Sincerely,
V
God Save the Queen.
God Bless the Prince of Wales.
God Preserve the Windsors.
Rule Britannia!
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