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From: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
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Subject: Re: Calling all Victors
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:51:09 -0600
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On 15 Aug 2010 22:48:21 GMT, "*.*.C~O,S--M,O's#*" <Jig@bone.com>
wrote:
>HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com> wrote in
>news:q4og661kcksvoaopo8ml4a061a8f4fiugl@4ax.com:
>
>> On 15 Aug 2010 21:44:25 GMT, "*.*.C~O,S--M,O's#*" <Jig@bone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com> wrote in
>>>news:neig66dhcrbj7n543uncmejcgt637t4i5d@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 15 Aug 2010 11:22:02 -0500, Luke <Luke@Lurking.orgy> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>FROM: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:15:54 -0400, NP-f31 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Double V,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you back from vacation yet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Love,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Doc
>>>>>>>NP-f31
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dearest Doc,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologise for having neglected my correspondence of late. Thank
>>>>>> you for your kind letter to my hush account some days hence. I am
>>>>>> flattered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been quite busy lately, having just secured a permanent
>>>>>> position as instructor at a small institution. I gladly accept
>>>>>> the luxury of not having to worry about money in my accounts quite
>>>>>> as much as usual, but understand that luxury draws heavily on the
>>>>>> account of time. I have also just completed watching the
>>>>>> wonderful 1976 mini-series by the BBC, "I Claudius." I'd read
>>>>>> Graves work better than twenty years ago, but had never seen it.
>>>>>> Although the work is a masterpiece, and there were several young
>>>>>> boys in short tunics in several scenes (tho' nothing
>>>>>> revealing-blast!), my opinion of the Roman imperial families was
>>>>>> confirmed, that they were conniving, treacherous and brutal--and
>>>>>> that their perversions were equally so.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is so true. I was into Social Work and Psychology before I
>>>>>quickly burned-out in a few years time. We studied the Romans and
>>>>>the Greeks about their sexuality and how they treated their children
>>>>>during my basic training. They kept records. What you are saying is
>>>>>true. Even the French and British kept records of how children -
>>>>>poor or rich, common or noble - were treated as sex objects.
>>>>>
>>>>>I love your style of writing, your expressions come across like a
>>>>>colourfull rainbow.
>>>>>
>>>>>I return to my lurking.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the film, Gaius Caesar Germanicus, better known by the chilling
>>>>>> name of Caligula, finds annoying the chronic cough of a boy of the
>>>>>> court, perhaps eleven years of age, who was favoured by Claudius.
>>>>>> He sends the General of his Praetorian Guard to the lad with
>>>>>> instructions to make it right. Presently the General returns and
>>>>>> presents Caligula with, dripping in gore, the poor boy's head.
>>>>>> With a smile, Caligula comments to Claudius, "Oh, yes. And I've
>>>>>> cured his cough."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This particular atrocity seems unsubstantiated in the historical
>>>>>> records, but I find there are many such cruelties to children that
>>>>>> are a matter of record. Tiberius, who preceded Caligula, kept an
>>>>>> island resort where little girls ran naked as nymphs ... and as
>>>>>> did little boys. The Emperor took frequent pleasure in raping the
>>>>>> girls ... and enjoyed snapping the necks of the little boys with
>>>>>> his bare hands. Can you imagine! Monstrous sadism! Monstrous!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never postured that young boys, however comely and willing,
>>>>>> could not be utter beasts in much the way of the older folks.
>>>>>> Additionally, looking at the supposed sanctity of children from a
>>>>>> completely objective point of view, a human child could be seen as
>>>>>> having no more intrinsic value than a cockroach child, and that it
>>>>>> could equally be conceived therefore that the killing of the
>>>>>> former could engender no more guilt than the killing of the
>>>>>> latter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so it was ... and, I fear, in many places still is.
>>>>>> Considering these terrible things, and despite all the injustices
>>>>>> and hatred suffered by Boylovers nowadays, I am grateful that I
>>>>>> live and love in these times!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an aside, I once heard there was an emperor who enjoyed
>>>>>> swimming in the nude. He never swam alone, but in the company of
>>>>>> a dozen or so hand-picked naked young boys who leapt into the
>>>>>> water as soon as the Emperor did. As the emperor paddled his way
>>>>>> across, his "little sharks" as he called them, would come up
>>>>>> beneath him and nibble gently as his ... well, you get the idea.
>>>>>> I hope this fellow wasn't Tiberius, for that would ruin this
>>>>>> wonderful mirage of paradise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless, I think I'll put in a pool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HMS Victor Victorian
>>>>>> God Save the Queen.
>>>>>> God Bless the Prince of Wales.
>>>>>> God Preserve the Windsors.
>>>>>> Rule Britannia!
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Luke Lurker,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your comments, and your compliments. I would add that
>>>> for a millenium or two, the children of large-scale societies, such
>>>> as Rome, or Britain for that matter, were not regarded with as much
>>>> deference and care as in society now. They were often less sexual
>>>> objects than simply objects--provided, of course, they were not
>>>> one's own children! In cultures large and small, one's own children
>>>> represent one's own heart and aspiration with very few exception ...
>>>> even among those we might consider the most unrefined of peoples.
>>>>
>>>> It is thus tragic that this understanding is too frequently not
>>>> extended to children of others, producing Romanesque outrages to
>>>> this very day. The organized killing of street urchins in parts of
>>>> Latin America comes to mind, or the outrages in Sudan ... ad
>>>> nauseum.
>>>>
>>>> Those who wield great power believe they need not those who have
>>>> none. They scorn the weak and vulnerable and invariably abuse them
>>>> in the most heinous ways. The exaulted believe their power shall
>>>> never end, only to discover their error, as Lucius Aelius Sejanus,
>>>> the Emperor Tiberius' praetorian prefect discovered. Having slain
>>>> children of Tiberius' enemies as if no more than dogs, Sejanus and
>>>> his family, including his young, beautiful son and daughter, would
>>>> be butchered.
>>>>
>>>> So sweeps the fatal edge of that ageless blade known today by its
>>>> more benevolent name, The Golden Rule.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> HMS Victor Victorian, NP-g18
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> God Save the Queen.
>>>> God Bless the Prince of Wales.
>>>> God Preserve the Windsors.
>>>> Rule Britannia!
>>>>
>>>Dearest Victor.
>>>
>>>I hope Bognor was suitably to your liking and that Sally Combs
>>>guesthouse, was as always, spic and span and beautifully appointed.
>>>
>>> I am always in awe that she still runs such a tight ship, soon to
>>> turn
>>>87 I am told, but you would never guess to see her with mop in hand.
>>>
>>>Hope you did not fall foul of 9pm curfew like you did last visit?
>>>
>>>I believe she has raised it to 10-30 Saturdays, well as she says, you
>>>simply have to make allowances for modern folk!
>>>
>>>I loved your news that the zoo is doing fine, and one of your most
>>>treasured haunts,
>>>I heard that Like Arthur you could never resist rattling the bars of
>>>the poor old felines cage, and him so docile of late, do hope the
>>>keeper is advised of the tormenting, cannot have the poor soul loosing
>>>an arm or worse come next feeding time.
>>>
>>>I often fancied a tour of duty around the first second century AD In
>>>Rome Preferably well of financially, and keeping and well clear of
>>>politics and felt sure I could suitably staff my little vineyard with
>>>nimble fingered grape pickers.
>>>
>>>
>>>Toddle pip
>>>
>>>Cosmos
>>>
>> Dear Cosmos,
>>
>> I fear I've gone astray of the curfew once again, and I would amend
>> the claim that, rather, allowances are to be made for the older folk,
>> modernity be damned. Fancy the dark Teutonic Forests, do you? For
>> that is where you should be had you made your tour, with your head
>> upon a pike, had you not been fleet of foot.
>>
>> Regarding the old lion ... you seem to have earned his confidences. I
>> ask you in complete sincerity to let me know if I am incorrect both in
>> the act and message of rattling the cage. If I am, I willingly offer
>> my apologies at said zoo.
>>
>> My Fondest Regards and Admiration
>> And Wishes You Secure Those Talented Digits,
>>
>> Good-night.
>>
>> V
>>
>> PS: By the way ... have you any idea what has ever become of
>> Waterdance?
>>
>> God Save the Queen.
>> God Bless the Prince of Wales.
>> God Preserve the Windsors.
>> Rule Britannia!
>>
>
>Dear Victor
>
>Oh Yes I am basking in the lime light of adulation at the moment, the
>kittens are, to say the least a conundrum of some complexity.
>It has been 10 years and I fear I am little further forward with any
>conclusions regarding our current or previous incarnations!
>
>At times he can be a very nice chap, at other times, well you know the
>score.
>
>Absolutely no apology required to the gentleman or for the record sort on
>my behalf, but most kind of you to offer none the less.
>
>Oh, Waterdance is fine still active in some quarters starkids is one of
>his stomping grounds. not as Warterdance he droped that nic
>
>
>He is still practising his talents with PhotoShop, but I am afraid he
>would turn up on my doorstep and break my legs if I dared to post any of
>his recent shows.
>
>Ps now I think on it I did do one with permission a short while ago
>re badged!
>Cosmos
Dear Cosmos,
Most gratified to hear Waterdance is doing well. His creations were
so well-crafted, I can hardly imagine he might yet require practise
... yes, perhaps in the manner of the accomplished surgeon.
Your contributions and advice are always well-received.
Sincerely,
Victor
God Save the Queen.
God Bless the Prince of Wales.
God Preserve the Windsors.
Rule Britannia!
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