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From: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
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Subject: Re: Calling all Victors
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:00:17 -0600
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On 15 Aug 2010 21:44:25 GMT, "*.*.C~O,S--M,O's#*" <Jig@bone.com>
wrote:
>HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com> wrote in
>news:neig66dhcrbj7n543uncmejcgt637t4i5d@4ax.com:
>
>> On 15 Aug 2010 11:22:02 -0500, Luke <Luke@Lurking.orgy> wrote:
>>
>>>FROM: HMS Victor Victorian <victorvictorian@hushunomail.com>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:15:54 -0400, NP-f31 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Double V,
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you back from vacation yet?
>>>>>
>>>>>Love,
>>>>>
>>>>>Doc
>>>>>NP-f31
>>>>
>>>> Dearest Doc,
>>>>
>>>> I apologise for having neglected my correspondence of late. Thank
>>>> you for your kind letter to my hush account some days hence. I am
>>>> flattered.
>>>>
>>>> I have been quite busy lately, having just secured a permanent
>>>> position as instructor at a small institution. I gladly accept the
>>>> luxury of not having to worry about money in my accounts quite as
>>>> much as usual, but understand that luxury draws heavily on the
>>>> account of time. I have also just completed watching the wonderful
>>>> 1976 mini-series by the BBC, "I Claudius." I'd read Graves work
>>>> better than twenty years ago, but had never seen it. Although the
>>>> work is a masterpiece, and there were several young boys in short
>>>> tunics in several scenes (tho' nothing revealing-blast!), my opinion
>>>> of the Roman imperial families was confirmed, that they were
>>>> conniving, treacherous and brutal--and that their perversions were
>>>> equally so.
>>>
>>>This is so true. I was into Social Work and Psychology before I
>>>quickly burned-out in a few years time. We studied the Romans and the
>>>Greeks about their sexuality and how they treated their children
>>>during my basic training. They kept records. What you are saying is
>>>true. Even the French and British kept records of how children - poor
>>>or rich, common or noble - were treated as sex objects.
>>>
>>>I love your style of writing, your expressions come across like a
>>>colourfull rainbow.
>>>
>>>I return to my lurking.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the film, Gaius Caesar Germanicus, better known by the chilling
>>>> name of Caligula, finds annoying the chronic cough of a boy of the
>>>> court, perhaps eleven years of age, who was favoured by Claudius.
>>>> He sends the General of his Praetorian Guard to the lad with
>>>> instructions to make it right. Presently the General returns and
>>>> presents Caligula with, dripping in gore, the poor boy's head. With
>>>> a smile, Caligula comments to Claudius, "Oh, yes. And I've cured
>>>> his cough."
>>>>
>>>> This particular atrocity seems unsubstantiated in the historical
>>>> records, but I find there are many such cruelties to children that
>>>> are a matter of record. Tiberius, who preceded Caligula, kept an
>>>> island resort where little girls ran naked as nymphs ... and as did
>>>> little boys. The Emperor took frequent pleasure in raping the girls
>>>> ... and enjoyed snapping the necks of the little boys with his bare
>>>> hands. Can you imagine! Monstrous sadism! Monstrous!
>>>>
>>>> I've never postured that young boys, however comely and willing,
>>>> could not be utter beasts in much the way of the older folks.
>>>> Additionally, looking at the supposed sanctity of children from a
>>>> completely objective point of view, a human child could be seen as
>>>> having no more intrinsic value than a cockroach child, and that it
>>>> could equally be conceived therefore that the killing of the former
>>>> could engender no more guilt than the killing of the latter.
>>>>
>>>> And so it was ... and, I fear, in many places still is. Considering
>>>> these terrible things, and despite all the injustices and hatred
>>>> suffered by Boylovers nowadays, I am grateful that I live and love
>>>> in these times!
>>>>
>>>> As an aside, I once heard there was an emperor who enjoyed swimming
>>>> in the nude. He never swam alone, but in the company of a dozen or
>>>> so hand-picked naked young boys who leapt into the water as soon as
>>>> the Emperor did. As the emperor paddled his way across, his "little
>>>> sharks" as he called them, would come up beneath him and nibble
>>>> gently as his ... well, you get the idea. I hope this fellow wasn't
>>>> Tiberius, for that would ruin this wonderful mirage of paradise.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, I think I'll put in a pool.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely Yours,
>>>>
>>>> HMS Victor Victorian
>>>> God Save the Queen.
>>>> God Bless the Prince of Wales.
>>>> God Preserve the Windsors.
>>>> Rule Britannia!
>>>>
>>
>> Dear Luke Lurker,
>>
>> Thank you for your comments, and your compliments. I would add that
>> for a millenium or two, the children of large-scale societies, such as
>> Rome, or Britain for that matter, were not regarded with as much
>> deference and care as in society now. They were often less sexual
>> objects than simply objects--provided, of course, they were not one's
>> own children! In cultures large and small, one's own children
>> represent one's own heart and aspiration with very few exception ...
>> even among those we might consider the most unrefined of peoples.
>>
>> It is thus tragic that this understanding is too frequently not
>> extended to children of others, producing Romanesque outrages to this
>> very day. The organized killing of street urchins in parts of Latin
>> America comes to mind, or the outrages in Sudan ... ad nauseum.
>>
>> Those who wield great power believe they need not those who have none.
>> They scorn the weak and vulnerable and invariably abuse them in the
>> most heinous ways. The exaulted believe their power shall never end,
>> only to discover their error, as Lucius Aelius Sejanus, the Emperor
>> Tiberius' praetorian prefect discovered. Having slain children of
>> Tiberius' enemies as if no more than dogs, Sejanus and his family,
>> including his young, beautiful son and daughter, would be butchered.
>>
>> So sweeps the fatal edge of that ageless blade known today by its more
>> benevolent name, The Golden Rule.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> HMS Victor Victorian, NP-g18
>>
>>
>>
>> God Save the Queen.
>> God Bless the Prince of Wales.
>> God Preserve the Windsors.
>> Rule Britannia!
>>
>Dearest Victor.
>
>I hope Bognor was suitably to your liking and that Sally Combs
>guesthouse, was as always, spic and span and beautifully appointed.
>
> I am always in awe that she still runs such a tight ship, soon to turn
>87 I am told, but you would never guess to see her with mop in hand.
>
>Hope you did not fall foul of 9pm curfew like you did last visit?
>
>I believe she has raised it to 10-30 Saturdays, well as she says, you
>simply have to make allowances for modern folk!
>
>I loved your news that the zoo is doing fine, and one of your most
>treasured haunts,
>I heard that Like Arthur you could never resist rattling the bars of the
>poor old felines cage, and him so docile of late, do hope the keeper is
>advised of the tormenting, cannot have the poor soul loosing an arm or
>worse come next feeding time.
>
>I often fancied a tour of duty around the first second century AD In Rome
>Preferably well of financially, and keeping and well clear of politics
>and felt sure I could suitably staff my little vineyard with nimble
>fingered grape pickers.
>
>
>Toddle pip
>
>Cosmos
>
Dear Cosmos,
I fear I've gone astray of the curfew once again, and I would amend
the claim that, rather, allowances are to be made for the older folk,
modernity be damned. Fancy the dark Teutonic Forests, do you? For
that is where you should be had you made your tour, with your head
upon a pike, had you not been fleet of foot.
Regarding the old lion ... you seem to have earned his confidences. I
ask you in complete sincerity to let me know if I am incorrect both in
the act and message of rattling the cage. If I am, I willingly offer
my apologies at said zoo.
My Fondest Regards and Admiration
And Wishes You Secure Those Talented Digits,
Good-night.
V
PS: By the way ... have you any idea what has ever become of
Waterdance?
God Save the Queen.
God Bless the Prince of Wales.
God Preserve the Windsors.
Rule Britannia!
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