On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:32:08 -0600, HMS Victor Victorian
<victorvictorian@hushunomail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:05:18 -0400, NP-f31 wrote:
>
>>
>>>Dear Doc,
>>>
>>>My God. Could it be then so simple as that? You see, I am
>>>circumcised. I have always supposed, seeing fleetingly the
>>>differences between my penis and those of my friends, only a few of
>>>whom were done as I, that my circumcision had been my father's
>>>preference. But to think that it may have made all the difference in
>>>my lack of ability as a boy to experience what so many others have is
>>>astounding to me. Do you think this could be it? I'd very much like
>>>to hear from some of my fellow circumcised and uncut friends here.
>>
>>
>>Hey VV,
>>
>>It could definitely be that your snip is to blame. Even though
>>circumcised lads, such as yourself, have a diminished sensitivity and
>>lack the full palate of sexual pleasure, our orgasms tend to be more
>>vivid and less uncomfortable right afterward. This owning to the fact
>>that the vast majority of our nerve endings 'down there' were snipped
>>and discarded when we were wee ones.
>>
>>>Concomitantly, from your comments, I suppose you have never had as a
>>>boy a truly painful erection such as the type I have described.
>>
>>I've never had a painful erection at all. There has been discomfort,
>>but not pain. Sometimes boys who are uncircumcised will have a problem
>>with erections as their penises grow during puberty. Very often the
>>opening in the foreskin is not large enough to accomodate the larger
>>girth and added length of a growing stiffy. This condition is called
>>phimosis. These poor lads do, in fact, suffer from painful erections.
>>Happily the problem can often be remedied by gently working the
>>foreskin over the head and stretching it repeatedly over time. MTB had
>>this problem because he was not much of a wanker. In the process of
>>curing himself of his affliction he discovered the joys of the hand.
>>
>>> If
>>>the uncut penis is as sensitive as you describe, and conversely the
>>>circumcised penis is less so, as I have been informed, then one would
>>>expect an uncut boy to experience the "locked-syndrome" far more
>>>readily that a cut boy. Wouldn't you say?
>>
>>My hunch is that the 'penis lock' phenomenon will be dependent on how
>>the boy in question deals with his condition. As a young boy who was
>>fondling without expectation of some great reward, it is probable that
>>you brought on the 'p-lock' with your inefficient form of stimulation.
>>Whereas, a boy motivated by and expectant of an orgasm is more likely
>>to achieve his goal because he knows what he wants and how to get it.
>>Does that make sense? T-Bone, when I met him, was unfamiliar with
>>orgasms. It took a couple of suggestions for him to understand that
>>something more interesting occured to those who persevered.
>>
>>>Ah, love. Evasive emotion, so often over-romanticised and, when
>>>found, so often a disappointment. "T'is better to have loved and
>>>lost, than to have never loved at all." It is true. I am in search of
>>>a fulfilling relationship. Long ago, I loved a boy. Now he is gone.
>>>I shall not see the like again, I fear.
>>
>>Gone permanently? Or gone to manhood? If he lives, are you still in
>>touch? I am still in touch with the vast majority of my loved boys. A
>>few have died, there is only one or two that I haven't seen since they
>>were young men and that's because I moved away or they did. There's a
>>couple of Aussie boys I've lost track of and another closer to home
>>that I'm quite worried about he's been quiet for over a year.
>>
>>>Oh! Regarding the cooperation of mind and body ... it gets a bit more
>>>difficult as one gets older ... or at least so I realised when on
>>>successive nights, having gone to bed primed for some nice fantasy, I
>>>suddenly awoke at 2:45 in the morning with the revelation,
>>>
>>>"Damn it ALL! I've bloody well fallen asleep again!"
>>>
>>>I shall have to concentrate harder.
>>
>>Oh dear, well I suppose I have THAT to look forward to...
>>
>>Love,
>>
>>Doc
>>NP-f31
>
>
>Dear Doc,
>
>Once more, a handful of answers has spawned a plethora of new
>questions. Let me address your question to me first. Yes, Richard is
>still about. He's got a family now and I hear from him regularly. He
>calls me 'Dad.' Ha! It is perhaps regrettable, however much I love
>him, that his rapscallion family traits are still to the fore ... when
>Dickie does ring me up, it is usually to ask for money! I help them
>when I can. His older brother, Andrew, who was by far and away the
>more scholastically motivated of the two, did not survive life, I'm
>sorry to say. He was killed in an accident several years ago, just
>before he was to enter college. The majority of boys I've known,
>however, have gone their own ways, although I do see them again in
>public here and there.
Hey VV!
This is excellent news. He considers you his Dad too. So that means
you're a grandfather! Another generation for you to love? Only one of
my loved boys has a child so far. He was more of a younger brother
than a son, so I'm Uncle Doc to a sweet little girl.
>I shall briefly state my impressions of your last installment. You
>are circumcised. Because of that fact, you feel your orgasms are more
>intense, with less discomfort (whatever that may be) afterwards, that
>you have never experienced the type of penile pain with an erection
>that I've described, but suspect boys with phimosis do on occasion.
>You believe my symptoms result from ineffective stimulation, a lack of
>motivation, and a poor understanding of the objective.
This is not so much my opinion as what I've learned. The fellow I was
discussing earlier (with the inner tube) was uncircumcised as a child,
teen and man, he was circumcised as a man. He was able to describe to
me the difference in orgasmal quality before and after. Before he
experienced incredible sensitivity and pleasure, but he found that his
orgasms were more intense AFTERWARD because of the decreased
sensitivity. Basically, before he was more careful because of the
extra sensitivity. Afterward he could really go at it apparently. How
much his mind affected all of that I can't tell you. My British YF
tells me that when his foreskin gets pulled back, orgasms occur much
more quickly. Apparently this is the case with his younger brothers,
etc. as well.
>Now, my opinions. The more I read this, actually, the more tickled I
>am by the imagery! One hears Obi Wan Kenobi whispering, "Stay on
>target, Luke!"
Well, it IS supposed to be fun!
>I believe the true purpose of circumcision is not cleanliness, but to
>diminish sexual pleasure and thereby restrain the temptation for sex.
True! It was introduced into American society during Victorian (!)
times as a way to decrease the proclivity for masturbation in boys.
This experiment was a failure as we now know.
>This has been well-established in cases of girl circumcision (which I
>consider utterly barbaric). The fact that the process of circumcision
>removes the foreskin, the mucosa and part of the frenulum would lend
>to a loss of sensitivity to the glans and just below it. Thus the
>purpose is achieved to some extent ...
And yet, boys eventually discover their true purpose, don't they?
>I hadn't phimosis as a boy, so that cannot explain the painful
>erection syndrome. As for my 'technique' (you'll pardon the chuckle),
>I can tell you that unless a boy is well-versed, he reaches orgasm the
>first time completely by accident. As he rubs himself, if the
>feelings of pleasure level off, he'll become bored and stop. If they
>continue to build, he will continue to masturbate until perhaps one of
>three things happens: he reaches the cusp of orgasm, becomes scared,
>and retreats: second, his auntie walks into the room and he throws the
>covers over himself, or third, he comes. It is upon being swept up
>in the warm tsunami of ejaculation, dry or wet, that the boy becomes
>truly aware of his 'objective'.
Textbook! Well said. You are now certified to teach Primary Penis
Appreciation. I'll send your diploma.
>And let me tell you, I very quickly learned, once I'd got over my
>initial fear and retreat, an improved technique, a seductive
>motivation, and a very precise idea of my objective! I could simply
>lie on my back, draw my pyjama pants down, place two fingers on the
>area of my frenulum and gently rub in a sensual, circular motion to
>achieve a wonderful result. I was quite proud of myself, secretly.
I wish I could have been there to share your joy. ;)
>It takes a bit more effort nowadays.
Anything worthwhile does. Hopefully what you lose in speed you gain in
quality.
Have at it!
Doc
NP-f31
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