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From: Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
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Subject: Re: Boys, Lies and Informed Consent
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:41:10 +0000 (UTC)
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HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorian@NBG.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:04:03 +0200, wlg <myaddress@server.co> wrote:
>
>>In article <n7f344hk0mav5jfem5soticq718v071ksd@4ax.com>,
>> HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorian@NBG.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A previous strand has generated considerable discussion, petering out
>>> (no pun intended) with the various trolls babbling among themselves
>>> regarding images, informed consent, masturbation, and assauging the
>>> desires of killer psychopaths (based on the direction of discussion,
>>> an exclusive heterosexual troll club, I gather.)
>>>
>>> The opposition has already conceded that boys can give consent.
>>>
>>> The issue under discussion is if they could give informed consent to
>>> have images posted. The assumption is that the subjects of the images
>>> would be horrified or otherwise psychologically abused, if they knew
>>> that the viewers were masturbating over them (the "informed" part of
>>> "informed consent") I shall dispense with the argument that
>>> paedophiles masturbate while viewing these images, because it is
>>> simply an assumption based on the accusors' own behaviours when
>>> viewing naked women--which, by the way, may explain the unanticipated
>>> expense they incur for keyboards, etc.
>>>
>>> This observation aside, if indeed one believes that such behaviour
>>> occurs, and that if the boys knew it before hand, would they have
>>> given "informed consent" or would they have been horrified,
>>> embarrassed, wrought with shame and guilt requiring several therapy
>>> sessions and thus not given consent.
>>>
>>> Having been a boy, and having known many boys, I can state that boys
>>> are infamous exhibitionists ... and that they would react to the
>>> prospect with a great deal of mirth and hilarity. It would be a real
>>> "hoot" to think some older fellows were pulling taffy over them and
>>> the source of endless jokes.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, the boys would certainly learn to be horrified,
>>> embarrassed, wrought with shame and guilt that may or may not require
>>> several therapy sessions once they were exposed to "society's" (and,
>>> Psyko, please note the correct use of the possessive) horror and
>>> outrage. Given that unfortunate tendency of the "enlightened and
>>> morally upright" adults, the boys would not only be compelled to
>>> withdraw consent, but strenously deny they had ever extended it.
>>>
>>> But, as Ted has repeatedly observed, this is precisely how society
>>> works to keep its young indocrinated and its members in line.
>>>
>>> HMS Victor Victorian NP-g18
>>>
>>>
>>> God Save the Queen!
>>> God Preserve the Prince of Wales!
>>> Rule Britannia!
>>
>>There are some well known phenomena related to this concept: one is that
>>after exposure to the indoctrination of adult society, people may change
>>their minds about what they did as children or youths, some to the point
>>of denying it happened at all. Others have the wisdom and the honesty
>>to say to themselves, "That was then, this is now". Another phenomenon
>>that has been observed is that adults tend to "forget" their own
>>youthful indiscretions once they become parents -- but only those who
>>have become parents tend to forget! Most children are shoplifters, if
>>not outright thieves, as children. Do they agonize with remorse when
>>they are adults? Embarrassment would be about all an adult might
>>normally feel about such childhood exploits, if thought of at all.
>>
>>I've already mentioned that boys in my neighborhood used to have bloody
>>fights to determine who could take over the newspaper route where a
>>known (to the boys) pedo lived. To the winner belonged the spoils.
>>
>>I'm certain that the boy who introduced me to pornography in grade 8
>>would be mortified today if he were reminded -- he might even deny it
>>happened, but there they were -- two mimeographed 2 page stories, one
>>entitled "The Green Door" and the other something about taking a girl to
>>a secluded blue berry patch. Of course, that boy became a parent, so
>>his amnesia follows naturally.
>
> Quite, wlg. Quite.
>
> The most lasting damage to a boy's heart and soul is derived from his
> peers and the general adult world around him. I recall a story,
> perhaps posted earlier, of a boy who had been involved with a
> Boylover, who spent considerable time at this individual's home and
> had many reasons to do so voluntarily--icecream and video games, a new
> stereo, perhaps a new bike. I generally frown on enticement, but I
> cannot say the boy did not have genuine affections for the gentleman.
>
> The boy's benefactor was later arrested, and when the story got out,
> the taunting and cruelties of his classmates (the boy was just
> fifteen) drove the poor lad to commit suicide by tossing himself from
> a tower.
>
> So while with his gentleman, the young boy received gifts, attention
> and perhaps even love. What then had society given him, other than
> shame, rejection and fathomless despair?
>
> Such is the nature of this beast and I pray it be damned for the
> damage it does. And the antagonists dare claim love a perversion!
>
> Always very good to hear from you, wlg. Be safe and happy, and
> healthy if you can work it in!
So why not go public about the way you feel. Chicken?
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Look at that. The one, the only, the original, the stupid Naughty Boy is
back. Who said Usenet couldn't go further downhill?
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