In article <bpbhkg$i9h$1@news.onet.pl>, Piorokrat
<piorokrat@autograf.pl> writes
>
>Uzytkownik "Shez" <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>news:gdUkq6CJeQu$Ewx4@oldcity.f2s.com...
>> In article <bp7sim$76r$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>, Uncle Davey
>> <noway@jose.com> writes
>> >
>> >news:MBDtb.8832$Kb3.374446@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>> >>
>> >> "la n." <nilita2004@yahoo.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>> >> news:tRAtb.71335$Ws6.47978@edtnps84...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
>> >> > news:bp6fsc$7i$1@news.onet.pl...
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > As far as being manipulative is concerned, you occult workers
>> >> wrote the
>> >> > book
>> >> > > on that particular skills set.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That's how it seems to me, anyway.
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, that's a good point, Uncle.
>> >> > Invoking spells to make someone love you and the ilk.
>> >> >
>> >> > I remember my brief foray in that world lo many years
>> >> > ago, I picked up a little technique on how to get unwelcome
>> >> > guests to leave your home, if they've overstayed their
>> >> > welcome.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I remember, one placed a broom upside down leaning
>> >> > against a door to the outside.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think a lot of people get into wicca and "magick"
>> >> > feeling it will give them some sort of power over
>> >> > (and to manipulate) others to their own desires.
>> >> >
>> >> > la n.
>> >>
>> >> You amuse me. So your spell worked did it? Why? So you believe
>> >> that it does work. Interesting.
>> >>
>> >> I don't follow wicca, but I am sure that the wiccans are very
>> >> glad to get rid of your sorry ass.
>> >> Pip
>> >>
>> >
>> >When this is how you speak to people who are sympathetic to your world
>view,
>> >I really start to believe that you are not out to make converts.
>> >
>> >Uncle Davey
>> >
>>
>> Whoopee. Your getting it last, we don't want converts, those who come to
>> the pagan paths do so because they have been called, Not by a god, but
>> by a need to find a personal spiritual path that they can follow,
>> >
>> Any religion which goes out to actively convert others ends up with a
>> lot of people who are only in it for the social activities, the money or
>> because they like the idea of someone taking all responsibility for
>> their lives, it saves them having to.
>> Pagans are just the opposite, they take responsibility for themselves,
>> and for what they do, they don't pretend its someone else's fault, or
>> ask some god to forgive them,
>> That takes a great deal of maturity, and the ability to not only take
>> responsibility for what you do, but to put right what you have done
>> wrong if you can, and if you cant to learn a lesson from it so you don't
>> make the same mistake again.
>> How many Christians can claim that. They simply say God will forgive me
>> no matter how terrible the sins I have committed.
>>
>> How many murderers and child abusers, rapists, and criminals become
>> Christians in prison, and then want to be released because god has
>> forgiven them their sins so they are now good members of society, and
>> how many Christians think that these criminals should be freed simply
>> because they claim to have caught Christ, like it was a common cold.
>>
>> I don't see those Christians standing up and saying, that were glad you
>> have found your place with Christ, but the sins you committed can not be
>> forgiven by the society you live in , You have to pay the piper, or as
>> your faith says, Give unto Caesar what is Ceasurs... and pay for the
>> crimes that have been committed.
>> If Christians spent less time trying to convert others, and more
>> actually working within society to make it a more fair and honest place
>> for all of us, then perhaps more pagans would be less disgusted with
>> your Christians.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shez shez@oldcity.f2s.com
>
>Some of what you say, strangely enough, I agree with.
>
>Becoming a Christian may give you forgiveness with God, but in this world we
>still have to take our punishment.
>
>I think I made that point recently in the 'Pray for Ray' thread, but I will
>agree with you that many of my brethren who are not attentive to certain
>points of scripture and think in a pious, but oversentimental way, also
>believe that the courts should be very forgiving of offenders. Many are
>against the death penalty, or hard labour over long prison terms.
>
>But what you sow, you reap. We're not in heaven yet and the tears we deserve
>to cry are not wiped away yet.
>
>Uncle Davey
>
>
I would be quite happy to have them locked away, Victorian punishments
are not in my lexicon.
--
Shez shez@oldcity.f2s.com
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