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From: "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl>
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Subject: Re: Stop God
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:43:19 +0200
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> "Ilya Shambat" <ishambat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6d8c5a02.0307262022.1f7c36b0@posting.google.com...
> > "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
> news:<bftbl4$6ka$1@news.onet.pl>...
> >
> > > We are not obligated to forgive the trespasses of those who do not ask
> it,
> > > and God also is not obligated to do so either, but Christians are
> obliged to
> > > forgive those who say that they are sorry and there is at least the
> > > possibility they could be sincere.
> >
> > What about men who beat their wives and then say they're sorry and
> > once forgiven go back to doing the same thing? Is forgiving them the
> > best thing the women can do, or should they take a more proactive
> > approach?
> >
>
> Hi Ilya! Hi Davey! IMHO in the case you depicted above ... I believe
> it is "good" for a woman to forgive her husband (if she wants to "forgive"
> him) and then move on .... out of the relationship. That is, if the man
> is
> a repeat offender. As is often the case.
>
> Again, IMHO, being "sorry" also means "making amends", changing one's
> behaviour if you will. If not, expressing such "remorse" is just paying
> lip service.
>
> la n.
>
If someone beats because they are a bully then repentance should stop them.
The case of alcoholism is much tougher, as is the case of mental illness. It
is possible for an alcoholic to be repentant one minute and at it again the
next. I would not limit the mercy of God in these cases, but leaving a
difficult case like that is also a perfectly forgiveable sin on the part of
the wife also.
Uncle Davey
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