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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:30:33 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
>In article <dirgbm$qgf$0@pita.alt.net>, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
>wrote:
>
>> And my reply was the following:
>>
>> First you would need to define "free".
>>
>> There is evidently no freedom to do whatever we like. Otherwise the likes of
>> you and me would do nothing but walk around shopping centres all day long
>> kissing pretty ladies on the lips with impunity.
>
>Only I wish. But look at my website and see that I am with many.
>
>>
>> There is freedom to make choices between possible alternatives.
>>
>> When Adam sinned, I understand that he had a genuine choice between
>> sinfulness and sinlessness. However , since that time, man has not had
>> 'becoming sinless in one's own strength' in the feasible region. Adam
>> basically did it for us with his sin in the way our parents did it for us
>> with all our genetic illnesses and predispositions. We do not blame our
>> direct parents, as they are the victims of their parents, but it goes all
>> the way back to the beginning of the genetic audit trail.
>>
>
>Yes very true
>
>> And that is Adam and Eve to a fundamental Christian. To an evolutionist that
>> trail leads them back to an impossible event where a bunch of amino acids
>> and a self replicating strand of DNA complex enough to recreate the simplest
>> cell somehow come together within a semipermeable membrane. The chances
>> against this ever happening being so vanishly small I don't know how many
>> universes would need to exist for how many brazillions of years for it ever
>> to happen at all. But of course the godless gloss over that aspect of
>> evolution, so desparate are they to get away from the idea of a creator who
>> may have had some purpose for them and who may call them to account.
>>
>
>I cnat comment on evolutution since I have not studied it much.
Why not? You comment on the Bible and haven't studied it much:)
>
>> However, fortunately, although Adam screwed everything up for us, a Second
>> Adam came to rescue us, and this was God in the flesh. Jesus Christ. He had
>> the choice to lead the sinless life or the sinful life, as the first Adam
>> had, and this time he made the right choice, and then in sacrificial style
>> was put to death on behalf of the people of God, which we become by simply
>> believing in His death as the only answer to our problem of sin.
>>
>
>I believe the bible makes it clear that it was impossible for him to sin
>since he had 2 natures in one person.
That is absolutely false. The Bible does not say that it was
impossible for Jesus to sin. He chose not to sin and manifested the
strength of mind and character that it takes to refrain from sin.
Hebrews 4:15 KJV
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the
feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we
are, yet] without sin.
Jesus could have sinned; but chose not to. That leads us to you. You
have the option not to blaspheme against the Lord Jesus Christ; not to
speak evil of others, not to be arrogant, not to be decietful, not to
be a wolfe in sheep's clothing. When are you going to start "not"
sinning.
>
>
>> And here we do have a choice. I am convinced that we are not free to be free
>> of sin - as nobody but Christ has ever done it, and He was and is God
>> Almighty. But I do believe that we have a freedom to believe. Science has
>> not disproven the existence of God nor the efficicacy of the glorious Gospel
>> of salvation by faith in Jesus. Some so-called scientists merely rant on as
>> if they had, but when called on it all they have is rhetoric. We can validly
>> choose to believe the message of the Bible. We can validly choose to
>> disregard our doubts and trust Jesus to forgive us when we repent. And that
>> regardless of the fact that through life we will disappoint God again and
>> again. But one day, at our resurrection, which Jesus started for us and was
>> the first fruits of, we will be placed into a sinless state where we can
>> actually be pleasing to God, true children of God, and enjoy his presence
>> and love in all eternity.
>>
>> Jesus himself, the Alpha and Omega, is The Answer to this and every other
>> major riddle the world contains.
>>
>> That's how I would answer your riddle
>>
>
>Of coarse
>
>
>> Best,
>>
>> Uncle Davey
>> www.usenetposts.com
>>
>> Anyone wishing to comment either here or there is more than welcome.
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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