Bible John wrote:
> In article <dirgbm$qgf$0@pita.alt.net>, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
> wrote:
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>>And my reply was the following:
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>>First you would need to define "free".
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>>There is evidently no freedom to do whatever we like. Otherwise the likes of
>>you and me would do nothing but walk around shopping centres all day long
>>kissing pretty ladies on the lips with impunity.
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> Only I wish. But look at my website and see that I am with many.
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>>There is freedom to make choices between possible alternatives.
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>>When Adam sinned, I understand that he had a genuine choice between
>>sinfulness and sinlessness. However , since that time, man has not had
>>'becoming sinless in one's own strength' in the feasible region. Adam
>>basically did it for us with his sin in the way our parents did it for us
>>with all our genetic illnesses and predispositions. We do not blame our
>>direct parents, as they are the victims of their parents, but it goes all
>>the way back to the beginning of the genetic audit trail.
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> Yes very true
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>>And that is Adam and Eve to a fundamental Christian. To an evolutionist that
>>trail leads them back to an impossible event where a bunch of amino acids
>>and a self replicating strand of DNA complex enough to recreate the simplest
>>cell somehow come together within a semipermeable membrane. The chances
>>against this ever happening being so vanishly small I don't know how many
>>universes would need to exist for how many brazillions of years for it ever
>>to happen at all. But of course the godless gloss over that aspect of
>>evolution, so desparate are they to get away from the idea of a creator who
>>may have had some purpose for them and who may call them to account.
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> I cnat comment on evolutution since I have not studied it much
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>>However, fortunately, although Adam screwed everything up for us, a Second
>>Adam came to rescue us, and this was God in the flesh. Jesus Christ. He had
>>the choice to lead the sinless life or the sinful life, as the first Adam
>>had, and this time he made the right choice, and then in sacrificial style
>>was put to death on behalf of the people of God, which we become by simply
>>believing in His death as the only answer to our problem of sin.
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> I believe the bible makes it clear that it was impossible for him to sin
> since he had 2 natures in one person.
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>>And here we do have a choice. I am convinced that we are not free to be free
>>of sin - as nobody but Christ has ever done it, and He was and is God
>>Almighty. But I do believe that we have a freedom to believe. Science has
>>not disproven the existence of God nor the efficicacy of the glorious Gospel
>>of salvation by faith in Jesus. Some so-called scientists merely rant on as
>>if they had, but when called on it all they have is rhetoric. We can validly
>>choose to believe the message of the Bible. We can validly choose to
>>disregard our doubts and trust Jesus to forgive us when we repent. And that
>>regardless of the fact that through life we will disappoint God again and
>>again. But one day, at our resurrection, which Jesus started for us and was
>>the first fruits of, we will be placed into a sinless state where we can
>>actually be pleasing to God, true children of God, and enjoy his presence
>>and love in all eternity.
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>>Jesus himself, the Alpha and Omega, is The Answer to this and every other
>>major riddle the world contains.
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>>That's how I would answer your riddle
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> Of coarse
So, any thoughts on how to resolve the conundrum?
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