Uzytkownik "lizzard woman" <kimosabeRMOVE@shaw.ca> napisal w wiadomosci
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> "Dave" <horndw@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> | lizzard woman wrote:
> | > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> | > news:dcv6md$nu9$0@pita.alt.net...
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> | Snip
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> | > | I have observation, and a world view that fits my
> | > | observation of the world.
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> | And we *still* haven't been given any specific "observation" to
> | consider...
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> Maybe he would consider the Green River Formation. I'll quote form the
> talk.origins.org web site since we know Davey likes that site...
It's my favorite bedtime reading.
Yeah, right.
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> http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH210.html
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> "In seasonal areas, sedimentation rates vary across the year, so sediments
> often show annual layers (varves) distinguished by texture and/or
> composition. We can be confident that the layers are seasonal because we
see
> the same sorts of layers occurring today. Even if they were not seasonal,
> the fineness of the sediments is often such that each layer would require
> several days, at least, to form. Some formations have millions of layers,
> such as the varve record from Lake Baikal with five million annual layers
> (Williams et al. 1997), and the 20,000,000 layers in the Green River
> formation. They must have taken hundreds of thousands of years to form at
> the very least."
>
If even Frank Zindler, editor of the American Atheist, has admitted that the
Green River shale does not demonstrate "true varves" (
http://www.rae.org/Varves2.htm for details ) then I don't see that we know
what accounts for the structure of the shale in question. He says in
correspondence with Brother Paul G. Humber in March 1999 that they are not
"true varves" - well, when is a varve not a varve? When it's good for a
larve?
Either something is a varve or it isn't. There is no "true varves", as there
is no "try". Did he chain them up to a lie detector and discover they were
lying? Shale on them! Varvarian varves!
If they are not varves, as we can conclude from his own admission, then they
show us no conclusive evidence about the age of the earth.
But thanks for bluffing, anyway.
Uncle Davey
www.usenetposts.com/frag01.htm
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