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From: "Richard Forrest" <richard@plesiosaur.com>
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Subject: Re: Corroboration
Date: 19 Jun 2005 02:07:28 -0700
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Glenn wrote:
> "Richard Forrest" <richard@plesiosaur.com> wrote in message news:1119127843.743329.317210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > Glenn wrote:
> > > "Richard Forrest" <richard@plesiosaur.com> wrote in message news:1119116139.608324.327240@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Glenn wrote:
> > > > <snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Hey! It's Glenn again!
> > > > Now let's get back to a question you have been very conspicuouly not
> > > > answering:
> > >
> > > You think too much of yourself, weasel.
> >
> > My word! Resorting to insults from the start!
> >
> > > >
> > > > You accept that the evidence from the natural world tells us that the
> > > > Universe is very ancient - of the order of 15 billion years - and that
> > > > the earth is over 4 billion years old.
> > >
> > > No, I do not accept that the "evidence tells us" anything. We interpret data and make inferences. The data *appears* to support the concept that the Universe and the earth as much older than a few thousand years. I'm not a YEC, and have never given you any indication that I am. That probably won't fix your broken record, however.
> >
> >
> > So we have one clear statement from you which you have not made before:
> > you are not a YEC. There's a start.
> >
> There's another lie. Bye, weasel.
> snip
So is it a lie that you are not a YEC?
If so, I fail to understand why you make statements such as "I'm not a
YEC".
Of course, if you've made this clear elsewhere I apologise - I do not
recall any such statement, but haven't made an exhaustive study of all
your postings.
Now that we have that minor quibble out of the way, perhaps you could
clarify your position on some other issues:
You made the statement that science is about truth. I have pointed out
that this is incorrect. Do you accept my correction (I am, after all, a
working scientist), or do you have some source for your assertion?
I'm still not clear on your position on the age of the earth, as you
accuse me of dishonesty when I try to seek clarification. Perhaps you
could briefly state how old you believe the earth to be, and what
evidence you rely on to inform that belief?
Perhaps you can give clear answers to the following questions: a yes or
no is enough.
1) Would I be correct in stating that you accept that the earth is
ancient, and that the scientific evidence supporting that age is sound?
2) Do you think that God interferes with the ordered running of the
Universe to create life, and to guide evolution?
Incidentally, if there is any aspect of my beliefs on which you are not
clear, feel free to ask and I will try to answer as honestly as
possible.
RF
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