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From: "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl>
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Subject: Re: Grapefruits Re: Hello Wiccans
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:38:43 +0100
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Uzytkownik "theoneflasehaddock" <electricwalnut23@yahoo.com> napisal w
wiadomosci news:aa0c605c.0311101010.4d7402f6@posting.google.com...
> "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
news:<bolsnh$31c$1@news.onet.pl>...
> > news:Bsurb.8712$jy.2525@clgrps13...
> > >
> > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bolrgh$51o$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
> > > >
> > > > news:FV5qb.848$aE5.7386181@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Grapefruits have several advantages over lemons.
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, they don't contain such a high relation of citric acid to
> > ascorbic
> > > > acid, so that they give you the vitamin C, but they don't stop you
> > sleeping.
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, they contain something that actually neutralises a bit
stomach
> > > > acid, meaning that they prevent people starting to get acid
stomaches
> > when
> > > > they are not eating much.
> > > >
> > > > Thirdly, elements such as potassium they contain more of.
> > > >
> > > > Traditions form around things like lemons, and people then are not
open
> > to
> > > > the idea that other things might be better.
> > > >
> > > > Incidentally, the best honey is from many flowers, the Polish is
'miod
> > > > wielokwiatowy'. The bees which are able to choose their own diet out
of
> > all
> > > > the richness of an uninsecticided meadowland know how to produce
from
> > that
> > > > the optimally healthy honey. Honeys produced to give a particular
> > flavour,
> > > > such as buckwheat flower honey, sandalwood honeys, etc, are far less
> > rich
> > in
> > > > natural medicine. That is one of the reason we lose a lot by putting
> > > > insecticides on land, and why Poland, which is low in insecticides,
is
> > one
> > > > of the main producers of medicinal honey.
> > > >
> > > > It is important not to heat the mixture over about the high fifties
> > Celsius,
> > > > as this can cause the breakdown of the vitamins and natural
antibiotics
> > in
> > > > the ingredients.
> > > >
> > > > Uncle Davey
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hello Wiccans and Christians!
> > >
> > > Speaking of grapefruits, here's something that has been in the news
> > > lately and which tends to appeal to the low-carbers:
> > >
> > > Grapefruit Puts the Squeeze on Low-Carb Diets
> > > WINTER HAVEN, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 11/04/2003 -- Florida Grapefruit
> > > may soon squeeze out Atkins and other low-carb diets as a safer and
> > > easier way to avoid carbohydrates.
> > >
> > > "Grapefruit contains key compounds that inhibit an enzyme in the
> > > digestive track, preventing the absorption of excess dietary fats and
> > > carbohydrates," says biochemical researcher Daryl Thompson, who
> > > initiated the grapefruit diet study with Scripps Research Clinic. "So,
> > > by eating grapefruit, you can lose weight without altering your diet
> > > at all."
> > >
> > > Other studies at Johns Hopkins University and Chapel Hill School of
> > > Medicine also show that Florida grapefruit is key to reducing symptoms
> > > of metabolic syndrome (Syndrome X), which includes high cholesterol,
> > > insulin resistance, hypertension and obesity.
> > >
> > > But even with the known benefits of grapefruit, many cannot tolerate
> > > the tart taste or acid indigestion; still others are avoiding the
> > > fruit because of the potential negative chemical interactions with
> > > cholesterol lowering drugs. Additionally most of the compounds needed
> > > for weight-loss, are contained in the peel -- the part usually thrown
> > > away.
> > >
> > >
> > > la n.
> > >
> >
> > Grapefruits do not actually cause acid indigestion, that's the funny
part.
> > People with acid stomachs fear them because they are an acidic tasting
> > citrus fruit, but I know of little better to quell acid indigestion than
> > grapefruit juice.
> >
> > Try it next time you have a stomache ache, and you'll be amazed. It is
> > completely couter-intuitive, but it works.
> >
> > The best way to have a grapefruit is to eat it peeled, like an orange
and
> > leave on a bit of the pith, which is more roughage and makes you feel
> > fuller. I do not recommend eating grapefruit peel, as this also contains
the
> > pesticides and the wax that are used for cosmetic reasons.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Uncle Davey
>
>
> You're a dumbshit, actually. DO you have any clue what you are talking
> about?
>
> No, grapefruits do not stimulate acid production, and no one is
> claiming they do.
>
> People with acid stomachs? That's funny. Do you know of people whose
> stomachs do not produce acid?
>
> Secondly, grapefruit is bad for people with stomach problems. If you
> are on medication to reduce stomach acid (some, such as Prilosec,
> reduce its production by close to ninety percent), it is
> counterprocuctive to add acid to yourstomach, with fruits like
> grapefruit. It's not quite as bad as stomach acid, but if it is coming
> into your throat, you don't want it there for long periods. Therefore,
> if you have an existing stomach condition, you should NEVER TAKE
> ADVICE FROM DUMBSHITS ON USENET WITHOUT A FRONTAL LOBATOMY FIRST. By
> that, I mean, you should have one, not that you should check and make
> sure Uncle Davey has one, which is quite likely already.
>
> Just thought I'd point that out.
http://www.tripleaspectherbs.com/Bulkherbs/grapefruit.htm
So what are your credentials as a herbalist, then, Mr Anonymous??
Uncle Davey
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