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Uncle Davey wrote:
>> Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>> Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>>> Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Uzytkownik <hdsienkiewicz@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>>>>>>>>> news:1104741408.314216.10300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Jason Gastrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Davey,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you have a good weekend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It wasn't that magnificent, thanks. I had to go to Tczew on
>>>>>>>>> Sunday for an inventory count, and the road wasn't fantastic,
>>>>>>>>> but thanks for asking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's new?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not much. Lots of work to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Davey posted and said he was leaving the groups for a bit,
>>>>>>>>>> Jason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't last long.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I'm still gonna be posting hardly anything. No time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what he'll think of
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/hdsienkiewicz/JG_DOC_A.jpg ?
>>>>>>>>>> And isn't email a better place for chit-chat?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll tell you you what I think, David, I think it was a court
>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my experience court clerks make a lot of errors, after all,
>>>>>>>>> who's gonna sue 'em? I remember the patience I had to have
>>>>>>>>> with them in my limited experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't read enough yet since getting back from my inventory
>>>>>>>>> count attendances all over this country to know whether Jason
>>>>>>>>> says it is a court error, but I simply do not believe he would
>>>>>>>>> have been dumb enough to state 200 USD if he knew very well
>>>>>>>>> you could get hold of something that said 2000 USD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uncle Davey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow, Davey hit the nail on the head. This is exactly right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the odd bit of discernment here and there as you know,
>>>>>>> and now I have a little message for you, which you are at
>>>>>>> liberty to take on or not depending on whether the Spirit
>>>>>>> confirms these words to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Sienkiewicz is not so far gone as to forge changes to
>>>>>>> documents. This is something he will not do, according to my
>>>>>>> reading of him, nevertheless he is so prejudiced against the
>>>>>>> evangelical side that he automatically assumes some blame on
>>>>>>> your part when the document says something other than what you
>>>>>>> expected it to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My reading of the way Durango Bill has added this to his site is
>>>>>>> that he actually knows very well that it was a court error, and
>>>>>>> is slagging you off for saying 'no' when you I dare say were
>>>>>>> fairly sure that the note said 200USD because you hadn't
>>>>>>> noticed that it came back with an error on saying 2000 USD.
>>>>>>> This has been taken in a recent post by Sienkiewicz to mean
>>>>>>> that Bill also thinks you were lying about the 200USD, but here
>>>>>>> again he shows his prejudice, as the way Bill phrases it gives
>>>>>>> the game away that he knew it was only an oversight on your
>>>>>>> part. Otherwise he would have stressed the matter differently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wise words. My thoughts exactly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David's got you lumped in with the Benny Hinns and their ilk,
>>>>>>> which is a great pity for two reasons, firstly because you are
>>>>>>> not of their ilk, and are truly God's saved child, even with all
>>>>>>> your faults - no bigger than mine I hasten to add - and this I
>>>>>>> know because it takes an experienced person from within
>>>>>>> Evangelical Christianity to discern the difference, they cannot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benny Hinn is a fraud for a number of reasons. This can be
>>>>>> verified at http://apologeticsindex.org. In fact, it's a huge
>>>>>> archive or frauds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is why you have to be more careful
>>>>>>> in the way some things are presented. You have the right, as
>>>>>>> someone who has dedicated a full-time level of work to
>>>>>>> evangelism, to be supported in your cost of living by other
>>>>>>> believers, and this is absolutely no different to the priests of
>>>>>>> catholicism and the vicars of anglicanism that they would not
>>>>>>> give a second thought to and whom they do not attack as
>>>>>>> fraudulent because they live from the gifts of believers. They
>>>>>>> are sensitive about it, my suggestion is that you are simply up
>>>>>>> front about the fact that you do live from the love gifts of
>>>>>>> God's people in the same way as other full time Christian
>>>>>>> workers do, and be a bit careful with the way you present
>>>>>>> certain things that help you make a living. You can see how far
>>>>>>> they go to misunderstand this and behave as though you were
>>>>>>> building marble halls on the backs of these donations, rather
>>>>>>> than them being an essential part of any full-time ministry,
>>>>>>> and no different to the money raising that goes on in any
>>>>>>> church that has full-time ministers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. I suppose you
>>>>>> thought it was pertinent.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am writing it for their sakes, so that they can see that they
>>>>> are not applying the same criterion when they should be between
>>>>> your living and the living of other ministers whom they don't
>>>>> criticise.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The second reason why it's a pity is that if all this energy
>>>>>>> were being given by David Sienkiewicz in exposing real religious
>>>>>>> charlatans, then you and I would probably be among the first to
>>>>>>> applaud it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's true that we are only promised that the sheep and
>>>>>>> the goats in the Church are separated at the end of time, but
>>>>>>> the occasional exposure of a wolf in sheep's clothing here and
>>>>>>> there - even by a non-Christian, is something I would not get
>>>>>>> in the way of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As it is he is like someone pulling at your fleece, and although
>>>>>>> it doesn't come off whenever there is a cry of pain from the
>>>>>>> sheep he thinks is suspect he says "hmnn. that sounded a bit
>>>>>>> wolfy, that did, better yank some more". The more he tugs away
>>>>>>> at that fleece, and even some of the hairs come of in his hand,
>>>>>>> the more he thinks he is about to get the fleece off and reveal
>>>>>>> the bristly grey lupine coat beneath, but all he is doing is
>>>>>>> confirming his prejudices. That is, until they fall, which, God
>>>>>>> willing, they will, and he will see himself an imperfect man
>>>>>>> fighting another imperfect man for the simple reason that this
>>>>>>> other imperfect man has been received by God through Christ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe this is the way God is calling him. Maybe he has to go
>>>>>>> through this wrestling match with you in order to get a
>>>>>>> blessing. Israel was always a wrestler, and he will not let you
>>>>>>> go unless God bless him, even if it means a metaphorical wound
>>>>>>> on the thigh. This is of course not good news for you as the
>>>>>>> one who gets to play the role of the angel in that Genesis 32
>>>>>>> scenario, but in the end if you can turn his trying to cause
>>>>>>> you a penalty into you causing him a Peniel, then everyone is
>>>>>>> blessed in the end. That's why I think it may have been hasty
>>>>>>> for you to promise not to speak to him. He needs mercy and
>>>>>>> love, in the end, like every sinner. And the gospel is as we
>>>>>>> read to the Jew first and then to the Greek. It's always a
>>>>>>> priviledge to be able to take God's own truth to God's own
>>>>>>> people. I think that, hard as it is, you're gonna need to
>>>>>>> engage him. My "prophesy", if you wanna call it that, is that
>>>>>>> David Sienkiewicz is actually in the Elect, but will only
>>>>>>> realise that against his will and will only be brought to the
>>>>>>> Mercy Seat a-kickin' and a-scratchin' and a-fleece-pullin'.
>>>>>>> Ignoring him isn't gonna do it. If you go fishing, there's no
>>>>>>> point in cutting your line when there's a marlin on the end of
>>>>>>> it. You've gotta reel that big fish in. With a really big fish
>>>>>>> it can take other fishermen to hold the rod with you and stop
>>>>>>> it getting yanked out of your hands, and I can do that bit, but
>>>>>>> it's your fish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been thinking about this prophesy a bit. Do you have the
>>>>>> gift of prophesy? Have you prophesied other things that have
>>>>>> happened? Have you ever made a false prophesy?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have only made one other prophesy, when I was forced into it by
>>>>> the Andrew Sheldrake that I mention in this article.
>>>>> I wrote it three years ago, almost, as you can see.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?q=uncle+davey+sheldrake&hl=en&lr=&selm=3c7b3d89%2410%40news.ptt.ru&rnum=1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You notice I call him a very charismatic person. The full meaning
>>>>> of that you can understand better than the people I was writing to
>>>>> about it at the time, for he was very much into the Charismatic
>>>>> movement, telling me that I wasn't growing in grace if I didn't
>>>>> start developing spiritual gifts such as speaking in tongues,
>>>>> healing (he reckoned I had a 'leg difference' and tried to 'heal'
>>>>> me of it, but it didn't do any good, but thsi was down to my lack
>>>>> of faith, of course)
>>>>>
>>>>> We were in Berlin, it was the Summer of 1982, and we had gone over
>>>>> there to do some summer work as German language practice and
>>>>> shared the same accommodation. He was mobbing me continually to
>>>>> speak in tongues and prophesy, and was continually making
>>>>> prophesies about my life, not of which have come true so far. The
>>>>> one he was most sure of is that I would marry a girl he picked
>>>>> out of my college photograph who was called Sarah, and oddly
>>>>> enough he picked out someone who was in the Christian Union (she
>>>>> wasn't wearing any badge or anything) which was already enough to
>>>>> persuade him that he'd had my future wife revealed to him as a
>>>>> dead cert, (she was a good looking girl, but nothing came of it
>>>>> as I discovered that her views were rather irredeemably woolly
>>>>> and liberal, and I found this rather offputting, and she hardly
>>>>> came to any of the meetings anyway, and went to some Anglican
>>>>> Church which I don't think I would have been very comfortable
>>>>> in). Anyway, he was mobbing me to make some prophesy, until I
>>>>> really had had quite enough of this and was really on the point
>>>>> of regretting that I had come out there with him to be made to
>>>>> feel like a second class Christian, and I don't know why, but I
>>>>> said "OK, I prophesy that your future wife will be Kirsten". This
>>>>> was a red headed girl in the Lutheran Church Jugendgruppe at
>>>>> Steglitz, Berlin, where we were attending.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't even know why I said it. I wished I hadn't, but in the
>>>>> worst case if it had been wrong, then the meaning is that I had no
>>>>> prophesy gift after all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I lost contact with Andrew Sheldrake over the years, he went his
>>>>> way and I went mine, and I tried to make contact with him a
>>>>> couple of times but neither of our hearts were particularly in
>>>>> it, as I think he was really upset with me when I failed to go to
>>>>> Germany for his wedding with Kirsten when I, after all, had
>>>>> prophesied it, but I had some other unavoidable engagement that I
>>>>> cannot even remember now what it was - most probably I was simply
>>>>> in debt as I was poor as a student and probably didn't have the
>>>>> money to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did manage some years down the track to get his phone number,
>>>>> but he wasn't massively interested in small talk with me, and I
>>>>> have to say I found his manner still rather terse. I myself had
>>>>> gotten into pretty bad backsliding and bad behaviour in the mean
>>>>> time, so I wasn't in a fit state to really be companionable to
>>>>> another Christian anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since that time I haven't made any more prophesies, as such.
>>>>> Anyone who might be remotely interested can try and track down
>>>>> Andrew Sheldrake originally from Haywards Heath in Southern
>>>>> England to verify my claim to have made a true prophesy
>>>>> concerning his marriage, and one can also, if one is remotely
>>>>> interested, sift through the 8,700 articles on Usenet in this
>>>>> archive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.google.co.uk/groups?q=+%22Uncle+Davey%22+author:noway%40jose.com&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d
>>>>>
>>>>> and another 3,000 under other munges that I can supply to those
>>>>> still hungry for more, to see if I have made any other prophesies
>>>>> since then. I don't remember any, although certainly I have shown
>>>>> on occasion much discernment about things that were happening or
>>>>> going to happen. I have also been able to make very accurate
>>>>> forecasts about the directions of currencies, interest rates and
>>>>> house prices in my professional life that helped anyone who
>>>>> listened to them prosper, as well as helping me to get the chunk
>>>>> of money which I lost in my divorce, which chunk is described and
>>>>> quantified in various parts of my posting history, that I don't
>>>>> need to return to. I wouldn't call them 'prophesies' though. I've
>>>>> never been able to foresee lottery numbers or stuff like that,
>>>>> which would be an abuse anyway, and I put the other stuff down to
>>>>> a certain gift of discernment.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some outstanding predictions that I have made, such that
>>>>> Poland will become the first country in history to leave the
>>>>> European Union, and that Belarus will be free nine years from now.
>>>>> Again these are utterances of discernment, and not prophesies. I
>>>>> have also uttered that corals floated during the Flood and that at
>>>>> Babel each person received a unique language, rather than a family
>>>>> language, but these again are not prophesies, as apart from
>>>>> anything else they refer to past events, but we will only know at
>>>>> time's end what the truth of the matter is. I have a number of
>>>>> these, and I don't want to be unduly dogmatic about any of them,
>>>>> or one fine day I might wake up the leader of some dodgy sect,
>>>>> which is the last thing I need.
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course there is prophesy is art and in poetry, and here
>>>>> again the meaning of "prophesy" is different to that in the
>>>>> charismata. Akhmatova wrote "the poet is always right". This is
>>>>> more in the line of self-fulfilling prophesy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will say that this current "prophesy" is more a matter of
>>>>> "discernment" than real prophesy, as I have no idea whether David
>>>>> actually needs your involvement to get saved, I merely have a
>>>>> conviction that this probably will happen, with or without you,
>>>>> although it would be more encouraging for you to be involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you decide not to be, you shouldn't feel guily, though, as an
>>>>> elect person will always come in one way or the other. This is the
>>>>> doctrine of Irresistible Grace. I just thought that it would be a
>>>>> great encouragement to you to reel him into the Kingdom.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just curious. I know it's a real spiritual gift. I also
>>>>>> know that we can't just speak any old thing into existence,
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't try to do that. It's a matter of discernment, and with
>>>>> discernment one thing is certainly true and that is, that people
>>>>> ought not to follow another Christian's discernment if it
>>>>> conflicts with their own discernment about something in their own
>>>>> lives. Discernment about what is good for another is only good if
>>>>> it doesn't overrule the discernment they have. If your commitment
>>>>> to ignoring David Sienkiewicz is spiritually discerned, then
>>>>> because it concerns your life it overrules my discernment that it
>>>>> would be good for you to continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise discernment becomes an excuse for Christians to boss
>>>>> each other around on the basis of what seems right in their own
>>>>> eyes, which is something I am completely against and nothing but
>>>>> trouble lies that way. Positive exhortation is fine, but
>>>>> bossiness isn't fine, and to keep it that way we Christians need
>>>>> to remember that each of us has guidance from the Holy Spirit
>>>>> while we are not grieving the Spirit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's gonna take a lot of prayer, a lot of time, a lot of
>>>>>>> ego-bruising, a lot of re-adjustment of style, a lot of pain.
>>>>>>> But it's gonna be worth it, because that old Jew, as he calls
>>>>>>> himself, is gonna get born again. And there's gonna be
>>>>>>> rejoicing in heaven. Amen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uncle Davey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe, maybe not. So far, I haven't seen any interest in the
>>>>>> person or love of Christ. All I see is scorn, bitterness, and
>>>>>> misused energy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people just get born that way, if you get my drift.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At any rate, if you believe that he is going to get saved, then
>>>>>> be persistent in talking to him about Jesus Christ. Or consult
>>>>>> God and see which path He would have you take. As for me, I'm
>>>>>> done with him. Many times, he has told me that he will "bring
>>>>>> down" me and my ministry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. He has selected the one of us that his inner soul would
>>>>> like to bring him to God, and it isn't me.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I personally think it would be a pity to give up on
>>>>> him, and in your shoes I wouldn't, but like I just said, my
>>>>> guidance is for my life and your guidance is for your life.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> takes every issue, no matter how small, and acts like they're
>>>>>> HUGE, while demanding countless responses from me, putting me
>>>>>> down, painting me in a bad light, etc. He can do this by
>>>>>> himself as far as I'm concerned. There was a time when Christ
>>>>>> shook the dirt from his shoes and this is my time.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Christ didn't do that to his worst persecutor, which was Saul
>>>>> of Tarsus.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what we have here is a Saul of Tarsus type, and his
>>>>> persecution of us is exactly what I would expect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have much work to do. I need to press on and speak to people
>>>>>> who are actually willing to talk about Jesus, the mysteries of
>>>>>> God, the difference He has made in people's lives, the fruits of
>>>>>> the Spirit, the stories of the Bible, etc. You know. The
>>>>>> exciting and interesting things! This has been an overall poor
>>>>>> place for evangelism because there are precious few believers
>>>>>> and far more mockers, scoffers, God-haters, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone were to repent on usenet, they would probably just
>>>>>> leave. I could not see how they could possibly stick around and
>>>>>> face the evildoers that curse at Christians. They'd at least
>>>>>> need some healthy time away to grow in their faith.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not the greatest place for newborn Christians, Jason. Aqui
>>>>> tienes milion veces razon. That's why I'm glad that someone I
>>>>> helped a lot when they came to faith in another group which is a
>>>>> complete and perfect trolls' picnic area a couple of years ago
>>>>> didn't hang around much after.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, let's remember the words of the great missionary
>>>>> C.T. Studd, who ran missions to India, China and Africa spanning
>>>>> the 19th and 20th centuries. He said:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Some want to live within the sound
>>>>> Of Church or Chapel bell
>>>>> I'd rather build a rescue shop
>>>>> Within a yard of hell"
>>>>>
>>>>> I know missionaries who went to the Austrian Tyrol, an area whose
>>>>> lifestyle and GDP certainly outstrips that of the part of the UK
>>>>> they came from and I know missionaries who went to Nepal where
>>>>> people can lose their gonads and other jewels amongst the
>>>>> legendary fierce gurkha tribespeople for getting their back up
>>>>> and where civil war is raging. I know many others from many other
>>>>> places but these are if you like the extremes of cushy mission
>>>>> versus non-cushy mission. I would always prefer to support the
>>>>> folks in Nepal than these guys in a country where they can be
>>>>> looking down the barrel of nothing more heatpacking than a
>>>>> freshly baked apfelstrudel. In the range of missionfields, if
>>>>> kaffee und kuchen on the pistes by Innsbruck, and some kleine
>>>>> nachtmusik in Salzburg after that can described as a 1 in
>>>>> severity, and getting ambushed by bandits in the Himalayas can be
>>>>> put at a 10, I'd give this place a 2-3 ranking, no higher.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, this has been your mission field for some time, Davey. How
>>>>>> has your progress been? If you were to submit your experiences
>>>>>> and time spent to a Board, would they be pleased?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a menpleaser, and no-one finances my efforts but me. I am
>>>>> really only interested in whether God is pleased, and that is the
>>>>> question we all need to ask ourselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end of the day salvation is about individuals. That means
>>>>> that the shoal of mackerel on the radar approach is necessary to
>>>>> get out the Gospel to many people and you correctly, one year ago,
>>>>> steered me in the direction of setting up a website that could
>>>>> reach more people with the Gospel than my usenet activities. That
>>>>> has happened and I have the plan this year to double the content
>>>>> that I added this year, so that by the end of 2005 I have 3 times
>>>>> the content that I have now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, although your fine stats machines show that people
>>>>> with pretty flags from all over the world have been reading my
>>>>> articles, I still need to be able to address people on a direct
>>>>> level as well. That means having a lot more patience. Sure, there
>>>>> is a chance that some will not have been as effective a use of
>>>>> time as others, but I am not the one who can measure that, and
>>>>> neither is any board, unless God have mercy on them and tell them
>>>>> the right answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking these questions because your time is precious. You
>>>>>> (and I) need to spend our time wisely. If you've spent
>>>>>> thousands of hours on usenet with no converts, then perhaps you
>>>>>> should shake the dirt from your shoes . . . or at least give
>>>>>> yourself some guidelines and parameters regarding posting and
>>>>>> reading people's messages; as I have done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My parameters for 2005 are this:
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2004 I posted 3506 messages to Usenet. This will be halved in
>>>>> 2005, at least. That means the most messages I can post in 2005 is
>>>>> 1753, or 4,79 per day, and this being the 24th so far this year I
>>>>> am still on par for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> My other parameter, to at least double the www. output, I just
>>>>> mentioned.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not encouraging you to give up. I'm just encouraging you to
>>>>>> use your time wisely. If you could win 10 people to Christ in
>>>>>> January through posting messages in forums, for instance, would
>>>>>> you choose that medium over usenet?
>>>>>
>>>>> What fora are these, and how do we know that more people will see
>>>>> them who do not see usenet? Why are they devoid of the kind of
>>>>> battle we have here? Censored discourse I have to say is of little
>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've taken my ministry to forums and to ezboards. I'm going to
>>>>>> return to them very soon because it will be part of a project I'm
>>>>>> doing. I'm looking forward to it, too. For some reason, people
>>>>>> are far more respectable and curious about Christ there. Of
>>>>>> course, you also run into people that zealously believe odd
>>>>>> things. It's good to talk to them too, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish you well with it, and you too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uncle Davey
>>>>
>>>> I know my mission and I'm happily fulfilling it. I pray the same
>>>> for you, brother.
>>>>
>>>> God bless,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, I am hoping that even though you won't be speaking to
>>> DS, that nevertheless you'll also include him in your list of Usenet
>>> prayers, in due course as it is written that we should bless those
>>> that curse us and pray from them that despitefully use us. It is
>>> also written in the Book of James that the effective, fervent
>>> prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
>>>
>>> God bless,
>>>
>>> Uncle Davey
>>
>> Amen, brother Davey. I will - publicly and privately.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
Sorry for the delay in posting to this thread. I didn't see your message
until now.
> Thanks for that, brother.
>
> I was very blessed by your Journal on
> http://jcsm.org/Fasting/FruitVegetables/Journal.htm , by the way.
Thanks very much. I'm glad it blessed you and I hope it blesses others as
well. To God be the glory.
> I would join in, but there's no way I could give up meat in the audit
> season.
I understand. Perhaps you could pick a good time and place for you.
> I'm looking forward to following your efforts over the coming 19 days,
> though.
Thanks. So far, so good. Today is Day 9. Your prayers are appreciated.
I have some friends joining me in this fast from here to Cameroon. Let's
pray for them as well.
God bless,
Jason
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