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From: "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl>
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Subject: Re: Stop God
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:57:48 +0200
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Uzytkownik "BrendaLee" <ehmka@rochester.rr.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:3F2323FC.B1AA6639@rochester.rr.com...
>
>
> Piorokrat wrote:
> >
> > Uzytkownik "BrendaLee" <ehmka@rochester.rr.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> > news:3F22E45F.9F51DAC@rochester.rr.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Piorokrat wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Uzytkownik "Ilya Shambat" <ishambat@hotmail.com> napisal w
wiadomosci
> > > > news:6d8c5a02.0307252012.4597b0fa@posting.google.com...
> > > > > It says in the Revelation that all the sorcerers and adulterers
are
> > > > > going to go to hell. This precludes the idea of all-encompassing
> > > > > salvation, doesn't it?
> > > >
> > > > I've been an adulterer, and had a brush with the occult, but
> > nevertheless I
> > > > do not fear those verses because they refer to the sinner who
carries on
> > > > impenitent. If that were not the case, it would render the Gospel of
> > none
> > > > effect, and the sense of the Bible's message would be lost.
> > > >
> > > > We are told by Christ to forgive even up to 'seventy times seven'
the
> > sins
> > > > of people who repeatedly do the same bad thing to us, but come up
and
> > > > apologise.
> > > >
> > > > God similarly, forgives the same sins, even very grievous ones,
over
> > and
> > > > over again, for those who ask for forgiveness. Salvation is not
> > dependent on
> > > > being a good person, salvation is dependent on a deep down
understanding
> > > > that actually we're not ood enough for salvation, it's a pure gift
of
> > God.
> > > > That's the only 'trick' to it, but that's what causes men and women
to
> > go
> > > > into eternal punishment; rejection of the Gospel.
> > > >
> > > > We are not obligated to forgive the trespasses of those who do not
ask
> > it,
> > > > and God also is not obligated to do so either, but Christians are
> > obliged to
> > > > forgive those who say that they are sorry and there is at least the
> > > > possibility they could be sincere. If not, then how are we expecting
God
> > to
> > > > do the same to us?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Uncle Davey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, David!!!!
> > >
> > > *big smile*
> > >
> > > How nice to ((see you)) again.
> > >
> >
> > Good to see you too.
>
> > Uncle Davey
>
>
> Thanks. What have you been up to?
>
> Besides getting into trouble I mean.
Only!
>
> :)
> Hows the little ones?
>
Lovely and charming and cute, but not necessarily in that order.
> BrendaLee
>
> ps
> What does the first line where it tells the article number read as?
> If you don't mind my asking.
>
Oh crumbs! It's come out in Parcelmouth and I thought I was speaking
English.
It means 'User BrendaLee wrote in artcle number ....'
(Seriously, it's just the default setting in the Polish version of OE.)
Best,
Uncle Davey
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