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From: "\"Rev Dr\" Lenny Flank" <lflank_nospam@ij.net>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.uncle-davey
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:23:31 +0000 (UTC)
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Uncle Davey wrote:
> news:GPVdc.6225$BR1.2849@okepread03...
>
>>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>news:c58mi1$4vm$0@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>>news:SNudc.5444$BR1.3118@okepread03...
>>>
>>>>"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:c55sv1$5nb$0@pita.alt.net...
>>>>
>>>>>news:0tec70pla51ot4aoa35surfgn2ddg7sp06@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 02:45:40 +0000 (UTC), "Anastasia"
>>>>>><AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dana Tweedy" <tweedyd@cvn.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:rGndc.1371$l75.56@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Anastasia" <AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:JDkdc.5110$BR1.531@okepread03...
>>>>>>>>snipping
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No wonder you are 'high maintenance'. I imagine a minx like
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>take
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>toll out of anybody.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We may now add 'minx' to the list.
>>>>>>>>> 'High maintenance' was a bit light-hearted, even if only
>>>>>
>>>>>half-way,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>since I also must deal with a chronic medical condition. But
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>neither here nor there. I fully expected you to pounce on
>
> the
>
>>>>>>>reference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>confess no joy that you did, though, at this point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Again, just another data point that shows that "UD" doesn't
>
> treat
>
>>a
>>
>>>>>woman
>>>>>
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a human being. It's either "minx", or "bitch" or some
>>
>>patronizing
>>
>>>>term
>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>endearment. The way I see it, he can't imgagine that a 'mere
>>>
>>>woman'
>>>
>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be able to hold her own against him, much less give him the ass
>>>>
>>>>kicking
>>>>
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Anastasia has been administering. In order to save face, he
>
> has
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>>imagine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that it's David in disguise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I see that. But if he has problems being debated by a
>>>
>>>woman,
>>>
>>>>>he
>>>>>
>>>>>>>must live with that. No one will defer to him.
>>>>>>> Mr Sienkiewicz and I were on chat tonight and he mentioned
>>
>>that
>>
>>>>>Davey
>>>>>
>>>>>>>is from England but works in Poland. It seems to me that England
>>
>>is
>>
>>>>far
>>>>
>>>>>>>more liberal about those things than Poland and we speculated why
>>>
>>>such
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>>>businessman of 'stature' would leave England for the relative,
>>>>
>>>>perceived
>>>>
>>>>>>>backward Poland. We wondered if he did not perceive that society
>>
>>in
>>
>>>>>Poland
>>>>>
>>>>>>>is more conservative and tend to be more oppresive to women.
>>>>
>>>>Regardless
>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>such speculation, he clearly has issues with women.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anastasia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dang. I had the same thought quite independently earlier today.
>>>
>>>Davey
>>>
>>>>>>certainly seems to have a lot of problems dealing with women on an
>>>
>>>equal
>>>
>>>>>>basis and refers to them often in subservient terms ("kitten" was
>>>>
>>>>another
>>>>
>>>>>>one I saw him use recently).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He also talks a lot about how his business frequently takes him to
>>>>
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder if that has any connection with the mail order bride
>>>
>>>business.
>>>
>>>>>Is there anything wrong with that in your opinion? I don't in fact
>
> do
>
>>>that
>>>
>>>>>business, but I can see that it is something that, if done properly,
>>>
>>>could
>>>
>>>>>bring a lot of benefit to a lot of people.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't see any reason for intolerance towards the sector.
>>>>
>>>> You probably condone serfdom, slavery and pornography as well.
>>
>>After
>>
>>>>all, they brought benefit to a lot of people, too.
>>>>
>>>> Anastasia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think the comparison is fair. I am not talking about
>
> trafficking.
>
>> I think the comparison is *very* fair. These businesses are
>>trafficking in human beings and they take advantage of Russian women and
>>western men. It is also an easy way to commit fraud.
>>
>> Anastasia
>>
>
>
> One site, almost certainly the largest by a good margin, is www.bride.ru .
>
> Here, it is free to place an ad, and if someone responds to your ad, they
> get your e-mail address, and write to you.
>
> It is entirely up to the individual to decide whether the other side is
> sincere or not, and that applies to both the ad giver and the ad responder.
> There are also sites where men who want to marry place the ads.
>
> Bride.ru makes its money on click-through advertising and the compilation of
> mailing lists.
>
> You could find that by answering an ad, you come across an unscrupulous
> person, or a person who misrepresents themselves.
>
> That is why there are other agencies who play a more active role, and they
> also of course charge for that, as they charge for addresses, translation
> services, etc etc. You could get ripped off, or you could end up a lovely
> happy couple.
>
> www.ejeem.com shows an example of a fine family. The lady you see there is
> Zhanna, from Russia, now Jane Dutton, and two of those four kids are hers,
> two are Jim's from his first marriage. They are are success story for this
> sort of thing. For every story of fraud you hear about, there are dozens of
> families like the Duttons that don't hit the headlines.
>
Nice trolling, Davey.
I have to hand it to you -- you are absolutely the best tapeworm I've
seen on the net.
Long years of practice, I'll wager.
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