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From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
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Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:27:31 +0000 (UTC)
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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:c58mi1$4vm$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> > news:SNudc.5444$BR1.3118@okepread03...
> > >
> > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c55sv1$5nb$0@pita.alt.net...
> > > >
> > > > news:0tec70pla51ot4aoa35surfgn2ddg7sp06@4ax.com...
> > > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 02:45:40 +0000 (UTC), "Anastasia"
> > > > > <AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Dana Tweedy" <tweedyd@cvn.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:rGndc.1371$l75.56@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> "Anastasia" <AnastasiaK83@xocbackwards.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >> news:JDkdc.5110$BR1.531@okepread03...
> > > > > >> snipping
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > No wonder you are 'high maintenance'. I imagine a minx like
> you
> > > > would
> > > > > >> take
> > > > > >> > a
> > > > > >> > > toll out of anybody.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > We may now add 'minx' to the list.
> > > > > >> > 'High maintenance' was a bit light-hearted, even if only
> > > > half-way,
> > > > > >> > since I also must deal with a chronic medical condition. But
> > that
> > > is
> > > > > >> > neither here nor there. I fully expected you to pounce on
the
> > > > > >reference.
> > > > > >> I
> > > > > >> > confess no joy that you did, though, at this point.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Again, just another data point that shows that "UD" doesn't
treat
> a
> > > > woman
> > > > > >as
> > > > > >> a human being. It's either "minx", or "bitch" or some
> patronizing
> > > term
> > > > of
> > > > > >> endearment. The way I see it, he can't imgagine that a 'mere
> > woman'
> > > > > >would
> > > > > >> be able to hold her own against him, much less give him the ass
> > > kicking
> > > > > >that
> > > > > >> Anastasia has been administering. In order to save face, he
has
> > to
> > > > > >imagine
> > > > > >> that it's David in disguise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I see that. But if he has problems being debated by a
> > woman,
> > > > he
> > > > > >must live with that. No one will defer to him.
> > > > > > Mr Sienkiewicz and I were on chat tonight and he mentioned
> that
> > > > Davey
> > > > > >is from England but works in Poland. It seems to me that England
> is
> > > far
> > > > > >more liberal about those things than Poland and we speculated why
> > such
> > > a
> > > > > >businessman of 'stature' would leave England for the relative,
> > > perceived
> > > > > >backward Poland. We wondered if he did not perceive that society
> in
> > > > Poland
> > > > > >is more conservative and tend to be more oppresive to women.
> > > Regardless
> > > > of
> > > > > >such speculation, he clearly has issues with women.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anastasia
> > > > >
> > > > > Dang. I had the same thought quite independently earlier today.
> > Davey
> > > > > certainly seems to have a lot of problems dealing with women on an
> > equal
> > > > > basis and refers to them often in subservient terms ("kitten" was
> > > another
> > > > > one I saw him use recently).
> > > > >
> > > > > He also talks a lot about how his business frequently takes him to
> > > Russia.
> > > > > I wonder if that has any connection with the mail order bride
> > business.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything wrong with that in your opinion? I don't in fact
do
> > that
> > > > business, but I can see that it is something that, if done properly,
> > could
> > > > bring a lot of benefit to a lot of people.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see any reason for intolerance towards the sector.
> > >
> > > You probably condone serfdom, slavery and pornography as well.
> After
> > > all, they brought benefit to a lot of people, too.
> > >
> > > Anastasia
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I don't think the comparison is fair. I am not talking about
trafficking.
>
> I think the comparison is *very* fair. These businesses are
> trafficking in human beings and they take advantage of Russian women and
> western men. It is also an easy way to commit fraud.
>
> Anastasia
>
One site, almost certainly the largest by a good margin, is www.bride.ru .
Here, it is free to place an ad, and if someone responds to your ad, they
get your e-mail address, and write to you.
It is entirely up to the individual to decide whether the other side is
sincere or not, and that applies to both the ad giver and the ad responder.
There are also sites where men who want to marry place the ads.
Bride.ru makes its money on click-through advertising and the compilation of
mailing lists.
You could find that by answering an ad, you come across an unscrupulous
person, or a person who misrepresents themselves.
That is why there are other agencies who play a more active role, and they
also of course charge for that, as they charge for addresses, translation
services, etc etc. You could get ripped off, or you could end up a lovely
happy couple.
www.ejeem.com shows an example of a fine family. The lady you see there is
Zhanna, from Russia, now Jane Dutton, and two of those four kids are hers,
two are Jim's from his first marriage. They are are success story for this
sort of thing. For every story of fraud you hear about, there are dozens of
families like the Duttons that don't hit the headlines.
Uncle Davey
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