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From: HitherandYon@msn.com (The Nice Mean Man)
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Subject: Re: How do homosexuals feel about Christian attitude towards them?
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Jeff North <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:<f456qvsc17igmvsdt0enk5dde8civeu2la@4ax.com>...
> On 31 Oct 2003 03:49:31 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
> HitherandYon@msn.com (The Nice Mean Man) wrote:
>
> >| Jeff North <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:<d132qvgd6tm1pao4e6qdipeftnht2tn6j9@4ax.com>...
> >| > On 29 Oct 2003 20:58:29 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
> >| > HitherandYon@msn.com (The Nice Mean Man) wrote:
> >| >
> >| > >| Jeff North <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:<u7gppvkgh7ubhgdsntqd0fo0cgq4743fkt@4ax.com>...
> >| > >| > On 26 Oct 2003 20:32:12 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
> >| > >| > HitherandYon@msn.com (The Nice Mean Man) wrote:
> >| >
> >| > [snip]
> >| > >| > >| > Ahhhh the old one type of killing is justified while the other isn't.
> >| > >| > >|
> >| > >| > >| Correct.
> >| > >| >
> >| > >| > So how many adulterers have you stoned to death lately?
> >| > >|
> >| > >| None.
> >| > >| John 8:1-11
>
> >| > Paul states otherwise.
> >|
> >| I'm afraid you're wrong. Please post your exact source.
>
> So you don't know your own buybull!!!!!
It's YOURS, Whatever it is. And it will remain that until you reveal
it to me.
But I did find this verse of Paul's in his letter to the Ephesians...
Ephesians 5:31 "
"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be
joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh".
Is that the one that you had in mind...? :)
> >| > >| > Didn't you know homosexuality is extremely contagious. Better stay
> >| > >| > well and truly clear of any faggots and lesbians.
> >| > >|
> >| > >| ..... It is concievable however, that there
> >| > >| just may be an ex-faggot out there who, thru the power of the Holy
> >| > >| Sprit, has escaped the bondage of homosexuality (well, maybe one or
> >| > >| two).
> >| >
> >| > Brainwashing via torture works 'wonders' on anyone - you should try
> >| > it. Oh you have.
> >|
> >| "Brainwashing via torture"...? Please expound.
>
> I suggest you look up conversion therapy as practiced by NARTH.
Look it up for me. It means nothing to me. I have the Word. If it is
relevant to you, you dig it out. Otherwise I suggest you look up John
3:3-8
Here... I'll extend a Christian hand to you....
John 3:3-8
3 Jesus replied, "I assure you, unless you are born again, you can
never see the Kingdom of God." 4 "What do you mean?" exclaimed
Nicodemus. "How can an old man go back into his mother's womb and be
born again?" 5 Jesus replied, "The truth is, no one can enter the
Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. 6 Humans
can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from
heaven. 7 So don't be surprised at my statement that you must be born
again. 8 Just as you can hear the wind but can't tell where it comes
from or where it is going, so you can't explain how people are born of
the Spirit."
See...? No brainwashing via torture. Only a simple turning. Many have
made it. But you won't because you love your sin too much.
Romans 1:28-32
28 When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their
evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. 29 Their
lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy,
murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. 30 They
are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They
are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their
parents. 31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are
heartless and unforgiving. 32 They are fully aware of God's death
penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do
them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.
See...??
>
> >| > >| This individual may very well back-slide into the pit while
> >| > >| attempting to reach his ex-fellows. The devil wants this one to fall
> >| > >| so he can again be of use. He uses his ex-fellows to lay the trap. Not
> >| > >| that it's permanent. The fall, that is. Once you belong to Christ, it
> >| > >| is forever.
> >| >
> >| > ...only if you remain sinless.
> >|
> >| How so...? Upon what do you base that claim?
>
> So...I can in all honestly and sincerity say to Jesus that I repent my
> sin of homosexuality, he will forgive me
Yes..
1st John 1:9
9 But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to
forgive us and to cleanse us from every wrong.
> and I can still ----continue----
But you said you would repent...
re-pent: to change one's mind and regret the original decision
> with
> my homosexual relationships?
You can but you won't. It would be like pissing in your own well.
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