>
>
> Uncle Davey wrote:
>
> >>
> >>Why not one thousand yeasr ago. That's also a nice round number. Or a
> >>hundred thousand yeras ago. Also a n ice round number. A million yeras
> >>ago? Ten million years ago?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Do you have any evdience for a 10,000 year old earth (other than your
> >>say-so)? No? Then why shoudl we give a flying fuck HOW old you think
> >>it is?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > If you want to believe it was a thousand years ago, then what about the
fact
> > that we have detailed history going back longer than that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Omphalos.
>
>
> You do know that that is, right Davey?
Sure, but that is omphalos strong, and I am proposing omphalos lite.
The difference being, that there are no false memories in Omphalos Lite. It
is not a "total recall get your ass to mars" scenario like Omphalos Strong,
or last Truesdayism.
>
>
> >
> > A hundred thousand years ago is ten times longer than we actually need.
> >
>
>
>
> Says you. <shrug>
>
It's my gut reaction.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>>>>I don't believe that things that speciate can cross these kinds, and
> >>>>>that becomes then the definition of the Kind.
> >>>>
> >>>>It doesn't matter what you believe.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I don't know why you ask me then, if it doesn't matter.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I believe that speciations CAN cross these kinds.
> >>
> >>
> >>Why is my belief wrong and your belief is right (other than your
say-so).
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Show me a speciation crossing a kind
>
>
>
>
> Humans speciating from apes.
>
>
You gonna show me that? OK, I'll buy an airline ticket for that. What
airport do I fly to for the demonstation? Which apes will you be using?
Bonoboes?
>
>
>
>
>
> , and your belief will be right, and
> > I'll have to do a re-think.
> >
>
>
>
>
> Show me a barrier that stops a species from crossing to another "kind"
> (first, though, you'd have to define a "kind", which you don't want to
> do). Then I will be the one re-thinking.
>
> I'm not holding my breath waiting.
The fact that the record is so patchy for transitionals that people had to
think up punk eek, that's an illustration of that barrier.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>Anyone can say that they believe
> >>>>that the universe began last Thursday, and that would be impossible to
> >>>>falsify.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>There we are then. You admit you can't disprove my faith.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>And you can't disprove Sun Myung Moon's faith that he is the Son of God
> >>and the Younger Brother of Jesus. <shrug>
> >>
> >>So what.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > So nothing. If he's right, then we're both done for. All I can do is
believe
> > he isn't.
>
>
>
>
> And we should care about your belief because . . . . ?
>
> Why is your belief any better than his belief?
>
>
If you like the sound of his better, go for it.
>
> >
> > I can't prove it.
> >
>
>
> No shit.
>
> So why waste time arguing about it? Why not spend time arguing more
> substantive matters, such as whether angels had an omphalos.
>
Angels don't have omphaloi, each is separately created and is not wrought
out of sexual union, as men are.
Uncle Davey
--
To my mind, Davey, you are the most mischievous and dangerous kind of
Creationist. ... You even know the holes in the knowledge of the study of
language, and you can use the terminology to great effect. People ...
seeing
your essay, would likely fall for it hook, line and sinker. Because it
mixes fact
and myth so very well, you give it an air of plausibility.
Aaron Clausen (02/02/2004)
Read some more on www.usenetposts.com
Play me at halma, reversi, backgammon and other games on
www.itsyourturn.com user name = "Uncle Davey"
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