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From: broomhed@world.std.com (Ann Broomhead)
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Subject: Re: Evolution - Blind Heart Surgery
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 02:09:43 +0000 (UTC)
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"Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message news:<bvm99e$mqr$0@pita.alt.net>...
> news:bvm289$trc8b$1@ID-212110.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Piorokrat wrote:
> > > news:sblb101kdfsqj3uuji1p2jrfs1j96v3hlu@4ax.com...
> > >> In <buuke4$o53$0@pita.alt.net>, "Uncle Davey"
> > >> <noway@jose.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> How tall would the Tower of Babel have been if it had
> > >>>> been completed? (Note: I recommend you use the
> > >>>> archaeological record to justify your answer.)
>
> > >>> This is a mere irrelevance. Kindly posit a common ancestor
> > >>> of Indo European and Finno-Ugric.
>
> > >> And thus we see the Uncle Davey method of argumentation in
> > >> all its glory: He must assign others arguments to defend
> > >> (whether they assert them or not), but he himself need never
> > >> defend anything.
>
> > > Nice try, Jack, but I'm afraid unless you can show me what the
> > > common ancestor between Finno-Ugric and INdo-European, then
> > > evolution doesn't apply to the origins of these language
> > > families.
> >
> > Rubbish. Our inability to reconstruct a common ancestor of FU
> > and IE, or even to prove that one existed, does not imply that
> > they had none. You carefully avoid mentioning the other
> > possibility, favored by most historical linguists, that the
> > families have diverged beyond the reach of current techniques.
>
> You see, I find that less likely than the scenario that I gave in my essay
> at the beginning of this language discussion.
>
> Why should they have done so?
>
> What time period are we talking about?
We don't know, because YOU could not correctly answer the question
about when the Tower of Babel was built. As I wrote, 'way back when:
"The Tower of Babel, actually a ziggurat dedicated to Marduk, was
built no earlier than the Third
Dynasty of Ur (2112-2004 bce), when the first ziggurrat was built. It
is frequently attributed to Nebuchadrezzer I (1126-1105 bce)."
So, which time period are we talking about? What evidence do YOU have
that IE and FU were one language before that date, and different
languages afterwards?
> Why can't we even get at a common vocabulary of even 100 words?
Because the dates you are trying to avoid admitting to are WRONG?
Pfusand
That which does not destroy us
has made its last mistake.
-- Unspoken motto of the pantope crew
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