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> > Harry, Harry, Harry (said in the voice of Gilderoy Lockhart)
> >
> > There we were, discussing how language interrelates with the behaviour
that
> > enables us to choose our mate, and therefore IS part of human biology,
and
> > you bring up the question of portly women.
> >
> > And I was just about to have breakfast.
> >
> > Let me tell you that there is no evidence that fat women have ever been
> > desirable to most men.
>
> How about http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorf.html
> There is good evidence that there is a trend to associating thinner
> women as more sexually desirable over the past few decades
> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=139033
> The attractiveness of fatness in women has varied over the millenia in
> response to social trends
> http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Who-Is-Fat-Culture.htm
>
> >
> > Just because Reubens and a few other people liked them and painted them,
> > that doesn't make it the norm.
> >
> > He was painting rich people, that would pay him. And they tended to be
able
> > to get a big share of the food and be idle. Whether he really preferred
fat
> > women is highly debatable.
> >
> > Walking around the Tretyakovsky or the Wilanow Palace or Zamek
Krolewski,
> > which are the three most recent collections I've visited, you won't see
many
> > fat chicks in party hats in the collection.
> >
> > If you like them, you're welcome to them.
> >
> > Uncle Davey
>
> I don't think that a brief walk around a few museums makes you an
> expert on the subject. I don't suppose that a few minutes researching
> on the internet makes me one either. It perhaps does make me slighlty
> better informed.
>
> I don't see the connection between language and sexual attractiveness.
> Is your argument that if I don't find a woman sexually attractive,
> you'd be able to persuade me that she is? Somehow, I doubt it!
>
> RF
>
Heh heh heh.
I think you are right, and clearly you have some standards, not like our
friend Harry, who has given up on the slim women.
I think the problem is with some of the studies you have given is that they
are biassed because obese people write them.
It is clear that the rich have always gotten fatter, and America, as a rich
country, now has a great problem with obesity, as do many other countries
that have become well off.
The problem of obesity is that it is an illness, but people deny that, and
try to make out that it's okay.
Others try to diet, they are still fat if their will power is poor, but at
least they are in a different category to those who try to make out they
haven't got a problem.
There's a spiritual metaphor in there somewhere.
Uncle Davey
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