"la n." <nilita2004@yahoo.comNOSPAM> wrote in message news:<oHRSb.8970$ft1.1367@clgrps12>...
> "Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
> news:bvgekg$5m$1@news.onet.pl...
> >
> > Uzytkownik "Sharon B" <sharon@lart.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> > news:oaaj101vistrpuv6g70s0p5a7ogj5een8s@4ax.com...
> > > On 29 Jan 2004 13:20:21 -0800, dmocsny@mfm.com (The Danimal) wrote in
> > > <cac1ad88.0401291320.5403f396@posting.google.com>:
> > >
> > > >branchofjesse@hotmail.com (Jerzy Jakubowski) wrote in message
> news:<b9b3de8.0401290438.54c5f319@posting.google.com>...
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > >> Faith means believing what does not pass as what you call a fact as
> if
> > > >> it was one.
> > > >
> > > >Your sentence is hard to parse, perhaps by design.
> > >
> > > He got it wrong, in any event.
> > >
> > > "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
> > > things not seen."--Paul, Hebrews 11:1.
> > >
> > > hth
> >
> > It was precisely that verse I had in mind.
> >
> > If faith is 'the evidence of things not seen', then in apposition to
> > science, which demands seeable evidence before it declares a fact, faith
> > it's own evidence, and we believe unseen.
> >
> > I didn't give the verse vebatim, but I gave the substance of it, or at
> least
> > the substance of what I hoped for.
> >
>
> I knew that you were referring to that particular verse, Uncle,
> because you have talked about it before.
>
> In any case, I think it's a sad life for one who does not have
> faith, because faith - at the very least - implies hope, and
> hope is what drives us to the future with optimism and
> happiness.
>
> la n.
So if I have faith that Nilo is garbage, is that evidence that
Nilo is garbage?
Faith is only evidence that you enjoy kidding yourself.
-- the Danimal
P.S. Nice attempt at a misleading wordgame, though. It's obviously
tricky enough to fool billions of religious tools.
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