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"Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message
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>
> Uzytkownik "Sharon B" <sharon@lart.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:oaaj101vistrpuv6g70s0p5a7ogj5een8s@4ax.com...
> > On 29 Jan 2004 13:20:21 -0800, dmocsny@mfm.com (The Danimal) wrote in
> > <cac1ad88.0401291320.5403f396@posting.google.com>:
> >
> > >branchofjesse@hotmail.com (Jerzy Jakubowski) wrote in message
> news:<b9b3de8.0401290438.54c5f319@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > [...]
> > >> Faith means believing what does not pass as what you call a fact as
if
> > >> it was one.
> > >
> > >Your sentence is hard to parse, perhaps by design.
> >
> > He got it wrong, in any event.
> >
> > "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
> > things not seen."--Paul, Hebrews 11:1.
> >
> > hth
>
> It was precisely that verse I had in mind.
>
> If faith is 'the evidence of things not seen', then in apposition to
> science, which demands seeable evidence before it declares a fact, faith
> it's own evidence, and we believe unseen.
>
> I didn't give the verse vebatim, but I gave the substance of it, or at
least
> the substance of what I hoped for.
>
I knew that you were referring to that particular verse, Uncle,
because you have talked about it before.
In any case, I think it's a sad life for one who does not have
faith, because faith - at the very least - implies hope, and
hope is what drives us to the future with optimism and
happiness.
la n.
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