"Skitter The Cat" <Skitter_the_Cat@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<N3HRb.9019$5I4.2478@fe1.columbus.rr.com>...
> On 24-Jan-2004, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote:
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> > From: "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.uncle-davey
> > Subject: Re: I don't understand Creationists (was: Re: Hopelessness in
> > Evolution)
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:01:42 +0000 (UTC)
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> > "AC" <mightymartianca@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:slrnc0tdmr.1cs.mightymartianca@namibia.tandem...
> > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:36 +0000 (UTC),
> > > Emmit Svenson <emmitsvenson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:<buckuo$sb4$0@pita.alt.net>...
> > > >> "catshark" <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:u3ej001aek5gq6pve1ddd7ce1pcmb56ng1@4ax.com...
> > > >> > ...why should I credit *your* interpretation of Presbyterianism
> > > >> > over
> > > >> > a trained and experienced minister of the faith?
> > > >>
> > > >> Because what I believe is in line with the original founding
> > > >> documents,
> such
> > > >> as the Westminster Confession.
> > > >>
> > > >> These things are not done in a corner, anyone can get hold of the
> > > >> Westminster Confession and check off themselves whether they believe
> > > >> or
> not.
> > > >>
> > > >> Uncle Davey
> > > >
> > > > The Westminster Confession does not, of course, insist on a literal
> > > > reading of the Bible. Which is a good thing, because even if Christ
> > > > said "I am the way and the door," he wasn't hinged and made out of
> > > > wood.
> > > >
> > > > As recently as 2002, the General Assembly of the 2.5 million member US
> > > > Presbyterian Church passed a resolution that there is NO contradiction
> > > > between evolutionary theory and Scripture. Feel free to disagree with
> > > > their decision, but we're not going to take you as the foremost expert
> > > > on Calvin.
> > >
> > > Obviously they are not real Presbyterians. If they don't have the Uncle
> > > Davey stamp of approval, they might as well be cannibalistic Satanists
> > > for
> > > all the good it will do them.
> >
> > They may well be Christians, and it is more important to be that that a
> > real
> > Presbyterian.
> >
> > You can be a doctrinally sound Presbyterian, and not actually have Christ
> > in
> > your heart, whereas it's possible to be a Roman Catholic, very confused on
> > doctrine and yet right in his heart.
> >
> > It seems to me from the Bible that the first would be thrown in the fiery
> > pit with the cannibalistic Satanists, and the second would sit at the feet
> > of the Lamb in eternity.
> >
> > I'm able to discern a person whose doctrine agrees with the original
> > Presbyterian doctrines and who hasn't lavinated in the great doctrinal
> > mudslide with the mulchy masses of wannabe modern reformed churchgoers,
> > but
> > only God can tell whether someone has Christ in their heart, and that's
> > the
> > critical thing.
>
>
> When you write of the "original Presbyterian doctrines" does that include
> Calvin's ideas regarding the unity of state/religion and his
> practices/teachings/doings while he ran Geneva? Do you support, as a
> religious/political system the idea that theocracy was/is/can be a just
> system?
No, I'm not in favour of non-secular society yet, but I guess Calvin
just wanted a little taste of heaven aheadatime.
>
> My questions are not intended to be anything other than an attempt to
> understand you POV.
>
> How do you discern who has "lavinated in the great doctrinal mudslide"?
> What do you mean by "mudslide"?
>
> Skitter the Cat
I am using the image of a landslide or lavina in which all the ground
gives way and everything is swept downwards with it. That is what has
happened to the doctrine of scriptural authority in much of
Presbyterianism.
Best,
Uncle Davey
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