"Ariaan" <thisisagenuineaddresssopleaseomittheobvioustoreplyNOOOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<PqvQb.282174$_x2.593351@zonnet-reader-1>...
> Routerider wrote:
> > "Ariaan"
> > <thisisagenuineaddresssopleaseomittheobvioustoreplyNOOOSPAM@hotmail.com>
> > wrote
> > ...
> >
> >>> So my question to you guys is, is the author of this site being
> >>> dishonest or is he merely misinformed?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.michaelnewdow.com
> >>>
> >>> Thomas Paine is listed as a "bible believer" and a Christian.
> >>
> >> Well, judging by Thomas Paine's words, I would say that the author
> >> of that site, who appears to be Jason Gastrich, is very much misled,
> >> to say the least. A deist is not a Christian. What's more: the deist
> >> viewpoint opposes Christianity. From Thomas Paine's own words it
> >> would appear that he is anything but a Bible believing Christian.
> >> Surely he could talk about a Heavenly King reigning above. He did
> >> believe in God, after all. But apparently not in the Christian God.
> >>
> >> 'Dishonesty' is such a big word. I would take as my starting point
> >> that 'thick-skinned' is very much appropriate in this case.
> >>
> >>> It appears that *choice* quotes are snagged and an attempt is made
> >>> to fool those who are unfamiliar with these founding fathers.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.michaelnewdow.com/#Thomas_Paine
> >>
> >> Yeah, but what are you gonna do...
> >>
> >> Ariaan
> >
> > Thank you for your honesty. It appears to me that there is an
> > "outsider" definition of Christianity: "Someone who treasures the
> > teachings of Jesus Christ". Then there is the "insider" definition
> > which would be someone who confirms the following:
> > http://www.carm.org/doctrine/essentials.htm
>
> Yep. But the 'outsider' definition cannot be correct, because of what Christ
> Himself taught and who He was. Being a Christian is more than just
> treasuring certain teachings.
> It's just as in my example of the 'genuine' royalist: your believes and
> actions have to be in line with that which / who you're identifying yourself
> with. You don't have to be a Christian to define Christianity; it's just as
> with any other definition of followers of something/someone. If you are a
> true follower, you believe and act just as that which / who you are
> following. No more, no less.
>
> Therefore a Christian would for starters have to believe the Bible to be
> 100% correct. Otherwise they would not be following Christ's teachings.
>
> Ariaan
how is that even possible when it has been wrong on so many things?
perhaps if you beleive everythign happenedd as it says it does but
that the world is mad eto look like another thing happened, i'll grant
that that is at least consistent.
|
|