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"Piorokrat" <piorokrat@autograf.pl> wrote in message news:<bt4vgo$8el$1@news.onet.pl>...
> news:slrnbvbgb6.1o0.mightymartianca@namibia.tandem...
> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC),
> > Uncle Davey <noway@jose.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > news:7ndJb.40748$mU6.152529@newsb.telia.net...
> > >>
> > >> "Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:ukt9vv0hcqktmdosu2hvprh2ibvfa93o1i@4ax.com...
> > >> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC), Tom McDonald
> > >> > <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >> > >
> w
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>>Uncle Davey wrote:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> w
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>>Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>Roadrunner wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>It's funny to see how many efforts are being made by
> evolutionists
> to
> > >> > >>>>>>>push someone into the mud. Seems that most of such evolution
> > >> > >>>>>>>religion followers have a personal vendetta of some sort with
> those
> > >> > >>>>>>>who oppose them. This netgroup is about learning something.
> It
> may
> > >> > >>>>>>>also be used to find out how to approach your opponent. I
> agree
> that
> > >> > >>>>>>>we indeed also have fixated creationists, however
> evolutionists
> seem
> > >> > >>>>>>>to believe that they are all excluded from that possibility?
> > >> > >>>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>>It's a wise man that understands himself!
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>Good point. It's quite peculiar who they act this way.
> Nonetheless,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> we
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>>>>>press on because there is work to do and fellowship to have.
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>>JG
> > >> > >>>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>Jason,
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>Do you know the "work" Roadrunner would do, and what fellowship
> > >> > >>>>>he craves? You may be surprised.
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>>Tom McDonald
> > >> > >>>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>You are obviously itching to tell us.
> > >> > >>>>So bust a move.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>Uncle Davey
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>Davey,
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>Well, it's been done already. But you asked me, so....
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>Roadrunner is a sort of fundie Scientologist who's somehow
> > >> > >>>gotten himself in a jam with the main "church", and is now making
> > >> > >>>it up on his own. He believes implicitly in L. Ron Hubbard's
> > >> > >>>'religious' vision. He is opposed to evolution because L. Ron
> > >> > >>>Hubbard was opposed to it. Now he's found another bunch of folk
> > >> > >>>who oppose evolution, and who are even (in some ways) part of the
> > >> > >>>larger world; and has hitched himself to the the YEC's view of
> > >> > >>>creationism.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>He is not, to my knowledge, a Christian of any stripe. His
> > >> > >>>jargon isn't Christian; it is Hubbardian/Scientologist. If YEC
> > >> > >>>Christians make common cause with him on the theory that his
> > >> > >>>accepting of creationist arguments must make him an acceptable
> > >> > >>>ally, that's your choice. But he isn't one of you in more than
> > >> > >>>this narrow way, and you might consider whether his motives
> > >> > >>>matter in your support of him.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>If you're so inclined, you might ask him about Xenu and his
> empire.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>HTH
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>Tom McDonald
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Okay, thanks for that. Obviously I don't associate with that sort
> of
> thing,
> > >> > >> but in fairness I have to let him react to this before I make my
> mind
> up on
> > >> > >> the matter.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Uncle Davey
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >Davey,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Of course you have to follow this up with him. It's the
> > >> > >scientific thing to do :-). Seriously, it is also the right
> > >> > >thing to do, morally.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If you are able to get him to give you a straight answer, I for
> > >> > >one would be grateful.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Tom McDonald
> > >> >
> > >> > Tom:
> > >> >
> > >> > L Ron Hubbard. His dianetics sucks, but man could he write sci-fi.
> > >> > Have you every read his decology. I read it straight through except
> > >> > to eat, sleep, bath etc. It was hilarious. It is my favorite scifi
> > >> > book of all times. Ten books, but it was worth the time. His satire
> > >> > with regard to pschology, the news media, and the like was excellent.
> > >> > And the poor bad guy, the stuff that happened to him had me pitying
> > >> > him and laughing to the point of tears. Too bad he got into the
> other
> > >> > stuff, he was a good writer.
> > >>
> > >> And they do address him as 3rd grade SF writer, hmmm.....someone
> disagrees
> > >> apparently.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > BB
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > > Roadrunner please confirm or deny the accusations that your philosophy
> is
> > > akin to scientology.
> >
> > For goodness sakes, Dave, can't you use Google Groups?
>
> Of course I can, but it's fair to ask him, isn't it?
>
> Of course, if you wanna suggest some good search terms from what you
> remember, that'd be a short cut for me.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Please also confirm or deny the Shoah in the nineteen thirties and
> forties
> > > in Europe, in which some 6 million Jews were murdered, since recently
> you've
> > > also been accused of Holocaust denial.
> >
> > If you can get him to answer that question then I will be astounded.
>
> You're right so far. His response did not contain a straight answer, so I've
> asked again.
>
> If anyone else wants to deny the Holocaust, by the way, I'm listening.
>
> And so are my friends at the Israeli Embassy.
>
> Uncle Davey
waitaminute, what does the israeli embassy have to do with it? and
just for the record, and now to kow-tow to pop morality, i do beleive
the holocaust happened. i suspect a lot of people clam up on this
subject because it rightly involves so much vitriol, so i just wanted
to make clear that i am not simply being pc when i say that. but i
honestly dont understand what the isreali embassy or mosaad has to do
with it, as you mentioned somewhere else, and i havent heard anyone
else say anything like this. i mean, being a holocaust denier might
make one a fool, but it doesn't give israel any jurisdiction over you,
i dont think its illegal in israel either? and what would the israeli
secret service have to do with it anyway?
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