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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:41:32 +0000 (UTC),
> Uncle Davey <noway@jose.com> wrote:
> >
> > news:7ndJb.40748$mU6.152529@newsb.telia.net...
> >>
> >> "Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ukt9vv0hcqktmdosu2hvprh2ibvfa93o1i@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC), Tom McDonald
> >> > <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Uncle Davey wrote:
> >> > >
> > w
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>Uncle Davey wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> w
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>>Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>Roadrunner wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>It's funny to see how many efforts are being made by
> > evolutionists
> >> to
> >> > >>>>>>>push someone into the mud. Seems that most of such evolution
> >> > >>>>>>>religion followers have a personal vendetta of some sort with
> > those
> >> > >>>>>>>who oppose them. This netgroup is about learning something.
It
> >> may
> >> > >>>>>>>also be used to find out how to approach your opponent. I
agree
> >> that
> >> > >>>>>>>we indeed also have fixated creationists, however
evolutionists
> >> seem
> >> > >>>>>>>to believe that they are all excluded from that possibility?
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>It's a wise man that understands himself!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>Good point. It's quite peculiar who they act this way.
> >> Nonetheless,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> we
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>press on because there is work to do and fellowship to have.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>JG
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>Jason,
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>Do you know the "work" Roadrunner would do, and what fellowship
> >> > >>>>>he craves? You may be surprised.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>Tom McDonald
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>You are obviously itching to tell us.
> >> > >>>>So bust a move.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Uncle Davey
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Davey,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Well, it's been done already. But you asked me, so....
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Roadrunner is a sort of fundie Scientologist who's somehow
> >> > >>>gotten himself in a jam with the main "church", and is now making
> >> > >>>it up on his own. He believes implicitly in L. Ron Hubbard's
> >> > >>>'religious' vision. He is opposed to evolution because L. Ron
> >> > >>>Hubbard was opposed to it. Now he's found another bunch of folk
> >> > >>>who oppose evolution, and who are even (in some ways) part of the
> >> > >>>larger world; and has hitched himself to the the YEC's view of
> >> > >>>creationism.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>He is not, to my knowledge, a Christian of any stripe. His
> >> > >>>jargon isn't Christian; it is Hubbardian/Scientologist. If YEC
> >> > >>>Christians make common cause with him on the theory that his
> >> > >>>accepting of creationist arguments must make him an acceptable
> >> > >>>ally, that's your choice. But he isn't one of you in more than
> >> > >>>this narrow way, and you might consider whether his motives
> >> > >>>matter in your support of him.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>If you're so inclined, you might ask him about Xenu and his
empire.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>HTH
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Tom McDonald
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Okay, thanks for that. Obviously I don't associate with that sort
of
> >> thing,
> >> > >> but in fairness I have to let him react to this before I make my
mind
> >> up on
> >> > >> the matter.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Uncle Davey
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >Davey,
> >> > >
> >> > > Of course you have to follow this up with him. It's the
> >> > >scientific thing to do :-). Seriously, it is also the right
> >> > >thing to do, morally.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you are able to get him to give you a straight answer, I for
> >> > >one would be grateful.
> >> > >
> >> > >Tom McDonald
> >> >
> >> > Tom:
> >> >
> >> > L Ron Hubbard. His dianetics sucks, but man could he write sci-fi.
> >> > Have you every read his decology. I read it straight through except
> >> > to eat, sleep, bath etc. It was hilarious. It is my favorite scifi
> >> > book of all times. Ten books, but it was worth the time. His satire
> >> > with regard to pschology, the news media, and the like was excellent.
> >> > And the poor bad guy, the stuff that happened to him had me pitying
> >> > him and laughing to the point of tears. Too bad he got into the
other
> >> > stuff, he was a good writer.
> >>
> >> And they do address him as 3rd grade SF writer, hmmm.....someone
disagrees
> >> apparently.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > BB
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > Roadrunner please confirm or deny the accusations that your philosophy
is
> > akin to scientology.
>
> For goodness sakes, Dave, can't you use Google Groups?
Of course I can, but it's fair to ask him, isn't it?
Of course, if you wanna suggest some good search terms from what you
remember, that'd be a short cut for me.
>
> >
> > Please also confirm or deny the Shoah in the nineteen thirties and
forties
> > in Europe, in which some 6 million Jews were murdered, since recently
you've
> > also been accused of Holocaust denial.
>
> If you can get him to answer that question then I will be astounded.
You're right so far. His response did not contain a straight answer, so I've
asked again.
If anyone else wants to deny the Holocaust, by the way, I'm listening.
And so are my friends at the Israeli Embassy.
Uncle Davey
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