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> "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
> news:bt3vi9$9nb$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> >
> > news:7ndJb.40748$mU6.152529@newsb.telia.net...
> > >
> > > "Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ukt9vv0hcqktmdosu2hvprh2ibvfa93o1i@4ax.com...
> > > > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC), Tom McDonald
> > > > <tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Uncle Davey wrote:
> > > > >
> > w
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>Uncle Davey wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > w
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>>Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>Roadrunner wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>It's funny to see how many efforts are being made by
> > evolutionists
> > > to
> > > > >>>>>>>push someone into the mud. Seems that most of such evolution
> > > > >>>>>>>religion followers have a personal vendetta of some sort with
> > those
> > > > >>>>>>>who oppose them. This netgroup is about learning something.
> It
> > > may
> > > > >>>>>>>also be used to find out how to approach your opponent. I
> agree
> > > that
> > > > >>>>>>>we indeed also have fixated creationists, however
evolutionists
> > > seem
> > > > >>>>>>>to believe that they are all excluded from that possibility?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>It's a wise man that understands himself!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>Good point. It's quite peculiar who they act this way.
> > > Nonetheless,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> we
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>>press on because there is work to do and fellowship to have.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>JG
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Jason,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Do you know the "work" Roadrunner would do, and what fellowship
> > > > >>>>>he craves? You may be surprised.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>Tom McDonald
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>You are obviously itching to tell us.
> > > > >>>>So bust a move.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>Uncle Davey
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Davey,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Well, it's been done already. But you asked me, so....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Roadrunner is a sort of fundie Scientologist who's somehow
> > > > >>>gotten himself in a jam with the main "church", and is now making
> > > > >>>it up on his own. He believes implicitly in L. Ron Hubbard's
> > > > >>>'religious' vision. He is opposed to evolution because L. Ron
> > > > >>>Hubbard was opposed to it. Now he's found another bunch of folk
> > > > >>>who oppose evolution, and who are even (in some ways) part of the
> > > > >>>larger world; and has hitched himself to the the YEC's view of
> > > > >>>creationism.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>He is not, to my knowledge, a Christian of any stripe. His
> > > > >>>jargon isn't Christian; it is Hubbardian/Scientologist. If YEC
> > > > >>>Christians make common cause with him on the theory that his
> > > > >>>accepting of creationist arguments must make him an acceptable
> > > > >>>ally, that's your choice. But he isn't one of you in more than
> > > > >>>this narrow way, and you might consider whether his motives
> > > > >>>matter in your support of him.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>If you're so inclined, you might ask him about Xenu and his
empire.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>HTH
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Tom McDonald
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Okay, thanks for that. Obviously I don't associate with that sort
> of
> > > thing,
> > > > >> but in fairness I have to let him react to this before I make my
> mind
> > > up on
> > > > >> the matter.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Uncle Davey
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >Davey,
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course you have to follow this up with him. It's the
> > > > >scientific thing to do :-). Seriously, it is also the right
> > > > >thing to do, morally.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are able to get him to give you a straight answer, I for
> > > > >one would be grateful.
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom McDonald
> > > >
> > > > Tom:
> > > >
> > > > L Ron Hubbard. His dianetics sucks, but man could he write sci-fi.
> > > > Have you every read his decology. I read it straight through except
> > > > to eat, sleep, bath etc. It was hilarious. It is my favorite scifi
> > > > book of all times. Ten books, but it was worth the time. His
satire
> > > > with regard to pschology, the news media, and the like was
excellent.
> > > > And the poor bad guy, the stuff that happened to him had me pitying
> > > > him and laughing to the point of tears. Too bad he got into the
other
> > > > stuff, he was a good writer.
> > >
> > > And they do address him as 3rd grade SF writer, hmmm.....someone
> disagrees
> > > apparently.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BB
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Roadrunner please confirm or deny the accusations that your philosophy
is
> > akin to scientology.
> >
> > Please also confirm or deny the Shoah in the nineteen thirties and
forties
> > in Europe, in which some 6 million Jews were murdered, since recently
> you've
> > also been accused of Holocaust denial.
>
> Being accused for something does not validate the accusation! No one has
> been able to substantiate this. I have made my point more then once. The
> issue is not that of this holocaust, it's solely because I oppose
> evolutionary thinking. One has been unable to get me out of the way, and
so
> one resorts to other tactics. And that my friend is all there is to it!
I didn't quite get the answer, were 6 millions Jews killed in Europe during
the Second World War?
And do you love the Jewish people?
Please let me have a straight answer.
Uncle Davey
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