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Subject: Re: David Horn's Fish
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:55 +0000 (UTC)
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> Lenny Flank wrote:
>
> > Piorokrat wrote:
> >
> >> This appears to have started with David Horn challenging Dr Gastrich to
a
> >> discussion of Rift Valley Cichlids, then Constance calling on my
> >> authority as an ichthyologist
> >
> > You are not an ichthyologist. Your opinion on ichthyology is no more
> > authoritative than your opinion about theology.
So how do you work that one out? Because I don't have a degree in
ichthyology? Because I don't work in ichthyology?
I have read and do read more than the average hobbyist, and ichthyology does
interest me, and I can count as an amateur ichthyologist.
Sure I'm an accountant, does that make me not an ichthyologist? Am I a
linguist? I speak eight languages, I've got a good degree from a good
university in languages, but I'm an accountant. Am I an economist? My degree
was not in economics, but I rescue companies. I'd call that being an
economist in practice.
Am I a theologian? If I have read a lot about theology, possibly more than a
lot of people with theology degrees have read, then I can count as an
amateur theologian as well.
You are being too restrictive, I feel. At this rate, what are your
credentials for being a herpetologist?
>
> I would add that I missed a lot in these threads due to expanded
> responsibilities at work this week coupled with the fact that we appear to
> be dealing with multiple sock puppets, which will put me off pretty
> quickly. I don't have the kind of time that I used to have for newsgroup
> participation, but I did see the referral and yes, there are differences
> between hobbyists and experts.
>
> >> If we can confine the discussion to the Cichlids of lake
> >> Tanganyika, then I'll be happy to expand on what I've kept, what I've
> >> bred and what I've read.
> >
> > What does any of that have to do with evolution.
>
> Well, my challenge to Gastrich was pretty specific--certainly much more so
> than what we are seeing in reply above. Yes, we can discuss the evolution
> of cichilds (let's not forget Lake Malawi, too), but the fact is that my
> challenge to Gastrich is much more specific than that, and if someone else
> is going to presume to answer the challenge, they must answer the
challenge
> as it was placed in the newsgroup.
So what do you want to know about rift valley cichlids? I didn't catch the
beginning.
If I can shed any light I will, but now you appear to be backpeddling,
asking Jason about a very specific class of fishes, not knowing that a
breeder of Neolamprologus britchardi was sitting right next to him, and now
you're sliding out of it with the sock puppet excuse. I'm no sock-puppet,
I've been around on Usenet for six or so years and plenty of people know who
I am. You also re-set the headers to take the discussion out of our group,
but I've put them back, obviously.
These are the kind of tactics that you people are getting all upset about if
you think our side uses them.
Uncle Davey
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