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From: Lenny Flank <lflank_nospam@ij.net>
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Piorokrat wrote:
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>>
>>Piorokrat wrote:
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> w
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>>>
>>>
>>>>In talk.origins I read this message from "Piorokrat"
>>>><piorokrat@autograf.pl>:
>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My view of God is that he can simply call things into existence in an
>>>>>already completed and mature state.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I thought this was what you meant, but I could not believe it.
>>>>You actually believe in a God who deceives people. That is what
>>>>you have said. God makes things look like they have a past, a
>>>>history. They look like they had gone through events that had not
>>>>taken place. So, for instance, God could have created the world
>>>>Last Thursday and just made it look old. How could you tell if
>>>>you have a God willing to deceive people like that?
>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is so much deceit in this world that if we are going to start
>
> blaming
>
>>>God for deceit we'll get nowhere regardless of what we think about
>
> evolution
>
>>>and creation.
>>>
>>>The point is he TOLD us that it was made perfect, ie. mature.
>>>
>>>If you chosse to believe otherwise, up to you.
>>>
>>>It's obvious that when Adam was made at creation, he already was made
>
> say 33
>
>>>years old, he didn't have to wait 33 years of earthly life like Christ
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> did,
>
>>>who was never created but was made flesh in this world a baby.
>>>
>>>He and Eve were created already grown up people, with a language that
>
> they
>
>>>could speak normally learned for years from parents. Some people say
>
> Adam
>
>>>would have had no navel, but I see no problem with him even having been
>>>created with a navel. Everyone else has one.
>>>
>>>I don't see the deceit there, it only looks like deceit if you've been
>>>believing the humanist version of the world, which really is a deceit.
>>
>>
>>So how far are you willing to take this? Did God create the world 6000
>>years ago with light on its way here from supernovae that never actually
>>happened? Miles of sedimentary rocks containing fossils of organisms
>>that never lived? Igneous rocks with radionuclides in various stages of
>>decay?
>
>
> Fossils are a point which can be discussed. They are much rarer than they
> should be bearing in mind what evolutionists say about the age of the earth.
> I tend to believe that they are flood victims.
>
Then how did some of them get buried in desert deposits.
Oh, and why does Behe (who is not an atheist) think your "flood victims"
idea is pure horse shit. Sicne he is a working scinetist and you are .
. . well . . . just an insignificant little nobody in an Internet
usegroup, why should we take YOUR uninformed opinion on the matter as
more authoritative than HIS.
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Lenny Flank
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