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Piorokrat wrote:



>
>>
>>Piorokrat wrote:
>>
>>


>>>
>>>
>>>>Uncle Davey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So, for me, the best definition of a kind, true to both what I have
>
> been
>
>>>>>priviledged to observe of nature as well as in the Word of God, would
>
> be
>
>>>>>"the whole population of descendents of a group of animals or plants
>>>>>
>>>
>>>which,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>at the time of their creation, were able to breed and have offspring
>>>>>
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>were fertile."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sounds fine to me. Now how do you go about telling, in the present
>>>>world, whether two organisms belong to the same or different kinds?
>>>>Because all the evidence leads *me* to believe that there's only one
>
> kind.
>
>>>>In particular, how do you tell that humans belong to a different kind
>>>
>>>>from the African apes?
>>>
>>>Well I've given you a philosophical answer. I didn't say it would be
>>>possible to check and know for sure exactly what is in the same kind.
>>
>>
>>Surely you have some idea of the limits, and some idea of criteria for
>>basing your decisions. I'm suspecting you think that humans and apes
>>belong to different kinds. I'm suspecting you disagree with my position,
>>which is that there is a single kind containing all life. I'm just
>>asking what basis you have for these opinions, if indeed you hold them.
>
>
> Yes, I do believe that humans are a separate kind from apes, and the reason
> is that I cannot see with the length of the human generational cycle, even
> if we made it as short as twenty years, would be enough to enable us to go
> back a maximum of ten thousand years and therefore five hundred generations
> and get something that could have interbred with apes.





Behe disagrees with you and thinks you're full of shit. And he, unlike
you, is a working scientist.   <shrug>


Why is he wrong and you're right.







===============================================
Lenny Flank
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"

Creation "Science" Debunked:
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