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> Uncle Davey wrote:
>
> > news:3FDCB02E.4080104@durham.ac.uk...
> >
> >>Dr. Jason Gastrich wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi talk.origins,
> >>>
> >>>I hope you are doing well, tonight.
> >>>
> >>>Would you care to talk about creation and evolution? I'm representing
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>free.christians newsgroup. You can see our charter and FAQ here:
> >>>http://freechristians.org. We have been up for a couple of months and
> >>>already have thousands of messages and numerous subscribers. As you
> >>>cross-post, the main things we humbly ask are that you attack issues
> >
> > (not
> >
> >>>people) and avoid profanity.
> >>>
> >>>Lastly, I'm happy to write T.O. and seek some stimulating conversations
> >>>because I had some with you guys a few months ago. Yes, there were a
> >
> > couple
> >
> >>>of people that weren't interested in meaningful conversations, but
there
> >>>were several that were very intelligent and respectful. Overall, I had
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>good time posting and felt that I was treated well. So, here I am
> >
> > again,
> >
> >>>seeking some friendly discussions regarding creation, evolution, and
the
> >>>scriptures.
> >>>
> >>>Have a good night.
> >>>
> >>>Sincerely,
> >>>Jason Gastrich
> >>>
> >>
> >>Just one question.
> >>
> >>If you had never been exposed to any form of religion or scripture, and
> >>you only had the evidence to go on (geological evidence, fossil record
> >>etc), would this evidence have compelled you to the conclusion that our
> >>planet and the life on its surface were specially created by a
> >>super-powerful deity in a similar way to what the bible describes?
> >>
> >
> >
> > I think so. The religion that most people are exposed to every day is
> > evolutionism. I started taking an interest in creationism because the
theory
> > of evolution didn't square with what I saw of nature. It left too many
> > questions unanswered. I was not brought up in a Christian family, and my
> > mother is a former biology teacher and taught me evolution at the
breakfast
> > table.
> >
> > In the UK there are far fewer Creationists than in America, and I had no
> > such influence, before I doubted Evolution.
>
>
>
> That's nice.
Thank you.
> What exactly is the source of your religious authority. What exactly
> makes your (or ANY person's) religious opinions more (or less) valid
> than anyone else's.
Nothing. Just deal with the arguments. If they are not good arguments, that
shouldn't be a problem for you.
>Why should anyone pay any more attention to my
> religious opinions, or yours, than we pay to the religious opinions of
> my next door neighbor or my gardener or the guy who delivered my pizza
> last night.
Let's pay attention to all of them, and see which one's can stand up to
questioning.
> It seems to me that no one alive would or could know any
> more about God than anyone else alive does, since there doesn't seem
> to be any potential source of such knowledge that isn't equally
> available to everyone else.
Why do you make that assumption?
> You pray; I pray. You read the Bible; I
> read the Bible. You go to church and listen to the pastor; I go to
> church and listen to the pastor. So what is it, exactly, that makes
> your religious opinion any more (or less) valid than anyone else's.
>
Did I say my religious opinion was more valid? I was just answering the
question that was set.
This seems to have offended you in some way.
So what is it, exactly, about your listening to the pastor that makes you
more touchy than my listening to the pastor?
> (I should perhaps note that I am not referring to "you" as in any
> particular individual; I mean "anybody, anybody at all". I should
> also perhaps point out that I am NOT, repeat NOT, N-O-T, an atheist,
> nor am I "attacking religion" in any way shape or form.)
>
> I am very interested in getting answers to these questions,
> particularly from you as our resident "True Christian <tm> (c)".
If you are a Christian, then why the touchy reaction?
What have I done to upset you?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn?
Best
Uncle Davey
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