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On 19 Oct 2003 19:25:09 -0500, kidhacker@nym.alias.net (:KidHacker
NP-b54) wrote:
>Hi U !
>
>I caught your list in the thread about the renamed "RBV06," and I just
>now got the chance to do some comparing. Interesting results...
>
>There are some you have, that I don't, (not surprising), a few I have
>that you don't, (<gasp>), and some where our file sizes disagree. In
>some of those, yours are larger, and in some, mine are.
>
>Skipping the ones we both have that are identical, and the ones
>neither of us has, here's where we differ:
>
>Ones I'm missing:
>
>rbv20>>>>>I have Rbv20ns version 72,698,671
>rbv22
>rbv39
>rbv40
>rbv72>>>>>I have this as on the list
>
>rbm75>>>>I have this as on the list
>
>(I know rbv72 was posted recently, but I skipped it without looking,
>"assuming" it was prob'ly a rename of rbm72, since it was way out of
>the RBV sequence of numbers, and even about the same size as rbm72.
>Now that I'm curious, it's long gone from the servers. Did I screw up?
>Is it actually a different vid?)
>
>Ones that I do have:
>
>rbv45
>
>rbm76 (smaller, at 25,600,600 bytes vs 49,588,616. Likely incomplete.)
>rbm77
>
>I'll be glad to post all three.
>
>Ones with conflicts:
> Yours Mine
>rbv01 029,965,208 024,064,000 (exactly 47 parts @ 512000) ------->yes
>rbv02 419,329,996 418,815,190 (I'll get more into this later)---------->no----->I have several versions
>rbv05 111,159,276 111,411,008 - JimBob posted mine 10/13------->yes
>rbv08 174,227,361 173,571,209------------------------------------------------->yes
>rbv14 468,708,042 408,428,828------------------------------------------------->no----->I have rbv14(full) 462,780,042
>rbv16 212,897,258 212,123,456------------------------------------------------->no------->same as yours
>rbv27 274,038,620 270,994,267 - JBob posted one "in between"->yes
>rbv29 176,869,332 175,839,668 - JBob posted mine------------------->yes
>rbv31 165,989,800 164,914,175 - JBob posted mine------------------->yes
>rbv34 126,414,488 104,357,342------------------------------------------------->no------> same as yours, this is Rbv34ns.mpg
>rbv41 012,086,352 009,992,665 (an mpv, and most likely the diff)->yes
>
>rbm71 041,623,465 041,418,665------------------------------------------------->no----->same as yours
>rbm72 121,307,159 111,578,993------------------------------------------------->no----->102,631,154 my size
>rbm74 195,906,481 062,095,116 (major diff)--------------------------------->no----->same as yours
>rbm79 139,220,294 139,555,386------------------------------------------------->yes--->yours is bigger (the vid)<g>
>
>It'd be way interesting to compare crc's for these ones where we
>differ. I know that some of 'em date back to a time when none of us
>were all that conscious of corrupted parts.
>
>Now about rbv02... My copy is one I edited myself. I got it during the
>original posting in the Fort, in summer of 98. At that time, we didn't
>even know what a vid was, or how to join parts, and we were all
>frantically hopping around trying to learn about it. Corrupted parts
>weren't even a part of the picture yet.
>
>The vid always had a few glitches in it, and it had a definite timing
>prob, but they didn't matter. It was a real vid. For all I knew, that
>was how it was s'posed to be, or maybe it was that I was playing it on
>a P133 with Win3.11. Nobody was complaining. We were just watching.
>
>Two years later, I discovered that if I edited out the very last few
>secs of the ending, and a few other glitches, it cured the timing prob
>that started halfway thru the vid. That's the copy I have now, that I
>listed above. At the same time, I went looking back at the original
>parts, which I'd joined into "segments" to stash on Zip disks. I found
>some that were truncated, clearly short of the 512,000 byte size. Oh
>well... there was sure nothing I could do about it, except wait, and
>look for a clean posting of the original, which might never happen.
>
>Since then, I've seen postings of the same original I have, with the
>same probs, and then postings of edited versions, where others have
>tried in assorted ways to fix it like I did, and have even reencoded
>it. I've never yet seen a posting of a "clean" original, and it may
>not even exist. Whether yours is, or not, I have no idea. If it is, or
>"might" be, I might be forced to break out those original Zips and
>resplit the segments...
>
>Meanwhile, one at a time, it might be interesting to compare notes on
>the others.
>
>Take care, and see ya.
>
>KH NP-b54
>
> "Duct tape is like the force:
> it has a light side, a dark side,
> and it holds the universe together..."
> -Carl Zwanzig-
Hi KH,
I had made some mistakes on this list.
I do not have Rbv22, 39, 40. Also these sizes of the vids are not
necessarily the sizes that I have, but the largest sizes that Pepsi
and myself could find for the vids from viewing several ppl's
vidlists. I have put a "yes" by the ones that I have the vid as on the
list,and a "no" where I do not have that size with an explanation. I
have my original Rbv02 as posted by LT, and still have it named
Rbv02_LT.mpg, as I had previous versions without all the parts.
It played choppy so I edited it and removed the sound track and made
the Rbv02_Edit vid. This was before TMPGEnc came along. Now I have yet
another version of this where I removed the sound track and re-encoded
it with TMPGEnc adding the sound back and it is Rbv02(sf).mpg. And yet
another that I am not sure where it came from. Here's what I have.
Rbv02(sf).mpg 418,966,072
Rbv02.mpg 419,289,108
Rbv02_Edit.mpg 345,583,672
rbv02_LT.mpg 418,994,891
I think one of these plays quite well. I will have to view them.
The Rbm72 and Rbv72 are the same vid, however Rbv72 has a longer
runtime 17:59 as compared with Rbm72 at 16:34. It is a nice minute and
25 secs too! It is strange you do not have the Rbv72 version as my
file date is Sept 2000 on that one. See what you think now of this
edited info, and I will be glad to post any of these you want or
compare crc files as well. I would be glad to get those 3 I am
missing too, Also I see where yNot has offered assistance here and
posted some sizes and info as well. Maybe we can post a few of these
and all have the best copies when finished. Let me know what you would
like to do.
Take Care:)
U
It's a great day to be a boy!
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