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Subject: Re: WHOOF U ! Re: the RBV list
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In article <3f931762.44232653.qmail@nym.alias.net>, :KidHacker NP-b54
<kidhacker@nym.alias.net> wrote:
> Hi U !
>
> I caught your list in the thread about the renamed "RBV06," and I just
> now got the chance to do some comparing. Interesting results...
>
> There are some you have, that I don't, (not surprising), a few I have
> that you don't, (<gasp>), and some where our file sizes disagree. In
> some of those, yours are larger, and in some, mine are.
>
> Skipping the ones we both have that are identical, and the ones
> neither of us has, here's where we differ:
>
> Ones I'm missing:
>
> rbv20
> rbv22
> rbv39
> rbv40
> rbv72
>
> rbm75
>
> (I know rbv72 was posted recently, but I skipped it without looking,
> "assuming" it was prob'ly a rename of rbm72, since it was way out of
> the RBV sequence of numbers, and even about the same size as rbm72.
> Now that I'm curious, it's long gone from the servers. Did I screw up?
> Is it actually a different vid?)
>
> Ones that I do have:
>
> rbv45
>
> rbm76 (smaller, at 25,600,600 bytes vs 49,588,616. Likely incomplete.)
> rbm77
>
> I'll be glad to post all three.
>
> Ones with conflicts:
> Yours Mine
> rbv01 029,965,208 024,064,000 (exactly 47 parts @ 512000)
> rbv02 419,329,996 418,815,190 (I'll get more into this later)
> rbv05 111,159,276 111,411,008 - JimBob posted mine 10/13
> rbv08 174,227,361 173,571,209
> rbv14 468,708,042 408,428,828
> rbv16 212,897,258 212,123,456
> rbv27 274,038,620 270,994,267 - JBob posted one "in between"
> rbv29 176,869,332 175,839,668 - JBob posted mine
> rbv31 165,989,800 164,914,175 - JBob posted mine
> rbv34 126,414,488 104,357,342
> rbv41 012,086,352 009,992,665 (an mpv, and most likely the diff)
>
> rbm71 041,623,465 041,418,665
> rbm72 121,307,159 111,578,993
> rbm74 195,906,481 062,095,116 (major diff)
> rbm79 139,220,294 139,555,386
>
> It'd be way interesting to compare crc's for these ones where we
> differ. I know that some of 'em date back to a time when none of us
> were all that conscious of corrupted parts.
>
> Now about rbv02... My copy is one I edited myself. I got it during the
> original posting in the Fort, in summer of 98. At that time, we didn't
> even know what a vid was, or how to join parts, and we were all
> frantically hopping around trying to learn about it. Corrupted parts
> weren't even a part of the picture yet.
>
> The vid always had a few glitches in it, and it had a definite timing
> prob, but they didn't matter. It was a real vid. For all I knew, that
> was how it was s'posed to be, or maybe it was that I was playing it on
> a P133 with Win3.11. Nobody was complaining. We were just watching.
>
> Two years later, I discovered that if I edited out the very last few
> secs of the ending, and a few other glitches, it cured the timing prob
> that started halfway thru the vid. That's the copy I have now, that I
> listed above. At the same time, I went looking back at the original
> parts, which I'd joined into "segments" to stash on Zip disks. I found
> some that were truncated, clearly short of the 512,000 byte size. Oh
> well... there was sure nothing I could do about it, except wait, and
> look for a clean posting of the original, which might never happen.
>
> Since then, I've seen postings of the same original I have, with the
> same probs, and then postings of edited versions, where others have
> tried in assorted ways to fix it like I did, and have even reencoded
> it. I've never yet seen a posting of a "clean" original, and it may
> not even exist. Whether yours is, or not, I have no idea. If it is, or
> "might" be, I might be forced to break out those original Zips and
> resplit the segments...
>
> Meanwhile, one at a time, it might be interesting to compare notes on
> the others.
>
> Take care, and see ya.
>
> KH NP-b54
>
> "Duct tape is like the force:
> it has a light side, a dark side,
> and it holds the universe together..."
> -Carl Zwanzig-
I am aware of:
(reported file sizes may not match below 1MB between different file
systems)
rbv02.mpeg 418MB duration 00:40:09:22
rbv02_Edit.mpg 345MB duration 00:40:03:27
Original version has problems. Edit version is missing the blank frames
at the end, and has no soundtrack.
rbv72.mpg 111MB duration 00:17:58:09
Rbm72.mpg 102MB duration 00:16:34:10
They are the same movie, but the rbv has more at the end. You will want
that. His longer rbv72 would seem to be of great interest.
Rbm74.mpg 62MB duration 00:07:32:13
It is not complete. "major diff" is right! A longer version would seem
desirable.
rbv01.mpg 29MB duration 00:02:52:04
Small diff with yours, but not worth the trouble.
RBV34ns.mpg 104MB duration 00:12:05:27
It is complete. Removal of the soundtrack made it smaller than the
other version. Check your duration to see which version you have.
Arrangements can be made for some of these to be posted, if there is
need.
Y Not
"Duck tails are like a force:
they are opposite from the quack side,
and they fart the universe together."
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