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Subject: WHOOF U ! Re: the RBV list
Date: 19 Oct 2003 19:25:09 -0500
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Hi U !
I caught your list in the thread about the renamed "RBV06," and I just
now got the chance to do some comparing. Interesting results...
There are some you have, that I don't, (not surprising), a few I have
that you don't, (<gasp>), and some where our file sizes disagree. In
some of those, yours are larger, and in some, mine are.
Skipping the ones we both have that are identical, and the ones
neither of us has, here's where we differ:
Ones I'm missing:
rbv20
rbv22
rbv39
rbv40
rbv72
rbm75
(I know rbv72 was posted recently, but I skipped it without looking,
"assuming" it was prob'ly a rename of rbm72, since it was way out of
the RBV sequence of numbers, and even about the same size as rbm72.
Now that I'm curious, it's long gone from the servers. Did I screw up?
Is it actually a different vid?)
Ones that I do have:
rbv45
rbm76 (smaller, at 25,600,600 bytes vs 49,588,616. Likely incomplete.)
rbm77
I'll be glad to post all three.
Ones with conflicts:
Yours Mine
rbv01 029,965,208 024,064,000 (exactly 47 parts @ 512000)
rbv02 419,329,996 418,815,190 (I'll get more into this later)
rbv05 111,159,276 111,411,008 - JimBob posted mine 10/13
rbv08 174,227,361 173,571,209
rbv14 468,708,042 408,428,828
rbv16 212,897,258 212,123,456
rbv27 274,038,620 270,994,267 - JBob posted one "in between"
rbv29 176,869,332 175,839,668 - JBob posted mine
rbv31 165,989,800 164,914,175 - JBob posted mine
rbv34 126,414,488 104,357,342
rbv41 012,086,352 009,992,665 (an mpv, and most likely the diff)
rbm71 041,623,465 041,418,665
rbm72 121,307,159 111,578,993
rbm74 195,906,481 062,095,116 (major diff)
rbm79 139,220,294 139,555,386
It'd be way interesting to compare crc's for these ones where we
differ. I know that some of 'em date back to a time when none of us
were all that conscious of corrupted parts.
Now about rbv02... My copy is one I edited myself. I got it during the
original posting in the Fort, in summer of 98. At that time, we didn't
even know what a vid was, or how to join parts, and we were all
frantically hopping around trying to learn about it. Corrupted parts
weren't even a part of the picture yet.
The vid always had a few glitches in it, and it had a definite timing
prob, but they didn't matter. It was a real vid. For all I knew, that
was how it was s'posed to be, or maybe it was that I was playing it on
a P133 with Win3.11. Nobody was complaining. We were just watching.
Two years later, I discovered that if I edited out the very last few
secs of the ending, and a few other glitches, it cured the timing prob
that started halfway thru the vid. That's the copy I have now, that I
listed above. At the same time, I went looking back at the original
parts, which I'd joined into "segments" to stash on Zip disks. I found
some that were truncated, clearly short of the 512,000 byte size. Oh
well... there was sure nothing I could do about it, except wait, and
look for a clean posting of the original, which might never happen.
Since then, I've seen postings of the same original I have, with the
same probs, and then postings of edited versions, where others have
tried in assorted ways to fix it like I did, and have even reencoded
it. I've never yet seen a posting of a "clean" original, and it may
not even exist. Whether yours is, or not, I have no idea. If it is, or
"might" be, I might be forced to break out those original Zips and
resplit the segments...
Meanwhile, one at a time, it might be interesting to compare notes on
the others.
Take care, and see ya.
KH NP-b54
"Duct tape is like the force:
it has a light side, a dark side,
and it holds the universe together..."
-Carl Zwanzig-
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